Hi Jouni,

>>      o Enhanced mobility anchoring: define protocol solutions for a gateway 
>> and
>>        mobility anchor assignment and mid-session mobility anchor switching
>>        that go beyond what has been, for example, described in RFC 6097, 
>> 6463,
>>        and 5142. The solution should also define a mechanism for preserving
>>        ongoing mobility sessions in a single administrative or IGP routing
>>        domain, which would involve directing traffic towards the new anchor.
>> 
>>      o Forwarding path and signalling management: the mobility agent that 
>> handles
>>        the mobility signalling interacts with the network elements in the 
>> DMM network
>>        for managing the forwarding state associated with a mobile node's IP 
>> traffic.
>>        These two functions may or may not be collocated. Furthermore, the 
>> forwarding
>>        state may also be distributed into multiple network elements instead 
>> of a
>>        single anchor like network element. Define required protocol 
>> extensions to
>>        allow described forwarding path and signalling management.
>> 
>> 
>> These above two seem inseparable. 
>> I recommend we list them as one item.
> 
> Hrmph.. not sure I agree.
> 
>> (The separation was between "anchor selection" and "data-path management 
>> signaling" before. At that time, it was a clearer separation. But even at 
>> that time I was suggesting combining the two items. In this latest text, the 
>> separation got blurred. The title of the first item, along with references 
>> to "switching", "preserving sessions", "directing traffic" all point to the 
>> context of the second one…)
> 
> I see your point/concern. Since I (personally) see the enhanced mobility 
> anchoring more towards maintenance work, I am tempted to have these two 
> different milestones from the beginning. We could remove the last sentence of 
> the anchoring milestone..
> 

So, what's called "enhanced mobility anchoring" refers to 'maintenance work', 
and
"Forwarding path and signaling management" refers to 'new DMM solution'?

I didn't get that from the text…
In my understanding, what we have been calling "maintenance" is simply 
PMIP/CMIP improvements/fixes in broad context -- not related to a DMM solution.

On the other hand, that first bullet above does read like a DMM solution to me.

I'm confused… what is maintenance, what is the objective of first bullet, what 
is the objective of second bullet…

Alper











> - Jouni
> 
> 
>> We can note that separate anchor discovery & selection drafts may be 
>> produced (opening the door for split documents, while not forcing people to 
>> split any solution into two parts because the charter said so..)
>> 
>> 
>> Alper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> A heavily updated charter text in the github. I am not sure it addresses 
>>> all wording concerns folks had. But.. flame on ;)
>>> 
>>> Reading the telco notes I realize I do not have nor have seen the slides 
>>> shown during the call, so probably the "re-anchoring" sanitization in the 
>>> charter text went too far compared what was discussed in the call. Please 
>>> check.
>>> 
>>> If you have concerns on the milestones and specifically their timeline, 
>>> express your opinion with a new month+year combination.
>>> 
>>> The cooperation with other WGs is heavily reworded. Basically it says now 
>>> that DMM can mock other protocols but those then need review & ratification 
>>> from the protocol "owning" WG, just like commonly done with DHCP & RADIUS.
>>> 
>>> Routing based solutions are now explicitly stated to be restricted to IGP 
>>> routing domain and must not propagate routing updates outside the IGP 
>>> routing domain.
>>> 
>>> Regarding the "enhanced mobility anchoring" milestone that could also be 
>>> put under maintenance:
>>> 
>>> Work items related to the PMIPv6 maintenance include:
>>> 
>>>  o Enhanced mobility anchoring: define protocol solutions for a
>>>    gateway and mobility anchor assignment and mid-session mobility
>>>    anchor switching that go beyond what has been, for example,
>>>    described in RFC 6097, 6463, and 5142. The solution should also
>>>    define a mechanism for preserving ongoing mobility sessions in a
>>>    single administrative or IGP routing domain, which would involve
>>>    directing traffic towards the new anchor.
>>> 
>>> Opinions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Jouni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 6/6/2014 5:37 PM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti:
>>>> Hello Jouni, DMM folks,
>>>> 
>>>> We better clarify what "anchor re-selection" stands for.
>>>> If it is about selecting different anchors for different IP flows, that's 
>>>> one thing.
>>>> If it is about changing the IP anchor in the middle of an IP flow, that's 
>>>> another thing. And that other thing needs to be scoped out. A basic 
>>>> understanding of a use case would be appreciated (just an explanation for 
>>>> discussion, I'm not asking for another I-D!), and identification of 
>>>> various aspects of that scenario which translate to work items for DMM WG.
>>>> 
>>>> I won't be in the call today. So, consider this for a discussion. Follow 
>>>> up on the mailing list afterwards would be good.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Alper
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Minor changes..
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/jounikor/dmm-re-charter/blob/master/recharter_draft.txt
>>>>> 
>>>>> IMHO..the charter as it is today, would allow pretty much any solution 
>>>>> from legacy anchoring to herd of pigeons carrying IP.. ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have put in editorial changes of my own and clear text proposals 
>>>>> received from others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Jouni
>>>>> 
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>> 
> 

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