Sri,

Let me be perfectly clear - AERO works equally well whether the access
network is IPv4-only, IPv6-only, or dual-stacked. That is an advantage,
and addresses real-world use cases. Hence, I do not think it should be
discouraged by the charter.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.temp...@boeing.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Templin, Fred L
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:30 AM
> To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave); Brian Haberman; dmm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..
> 
> Hi Sri,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli 
> > (sgundave)
> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:20 AM
> > To: Brian Haberman; dmm@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..
> >
> > Agree. We should ensure the base solution supports IPv6 transport and user
> > sessions. Optionally, support for IPv4 can be allowed on certain
> > interfaces, but clearly should not deal with IPv4, NAT's or allow
> > IPv4-only solutions.
> 
> I don't understand that. In my enterprise, I have IPv4-only wireless
> access points yet there are IPv6 services within the enterprise. When
> I switch over to 4G wireless, I again get IPv4-only access but again
> there are IPv6 services within the enterprise.
> 
> If the mobility management mechanism supports IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling
> (possibly including NATs in the path), then the use case is satisfied;
> otherwise, the use case is not satisfied.
> 
> Thanks - Fred
> fred.l.temp...@boeing.com
> 
> > Regards
> > Sri
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/18/14 8:43 AM, "Brian Haberman" <br...@innovationslab.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Fred,
> > >
> > >On 6/18/14 11:25 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> > >> Hi Jouni,
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Jouni Korhonen [mailto:jouni.nos...@gmail.com]
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:00 AM
> > >>> To: Templin, Fred L; dmm@ietf.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..
> > >>>
> > >>> Fred,
> > >>>
> > >>> It is true IPv4 is there (and will be for a long time). Although the
> > >>> charter does emphasize IPv6 as the base solution it does not prohibit
> > >>> adding IPv4 support. It is just we can accept an IPv6-only solution as
> > >>>a
> > >>> valid & complete solution from DMM point of view.
> > >>
> > >> However, a solution that works equally well whether the access networks
> > >> are IPv6-only, dual-stack, or IPv4-only has clear advantages in terms
> > >> of near-term deployment in real networks. Therefore, I think the charter
> > >> is currently saying _too much_. My new proposal is simply to strike the
> > >> following two sentences:
> > >>
> > >>   "DMM solutions are primarily targeted at IPv6 deployments and
> > >>    should not be required to support IPv4, specifically in situations
> > >>    where private IPv4 addresses and/or NATs are used.  IPv6 is
> > >>    assumed to be present in both the mobile host/router and the
> > >>    access networks."
> > >>
> > >
> > >The above has been a part of the DMM charter for a long time.  Taking it
> > >out would appear to be opening the door for IPv4-only solutions.  My
> > >assessment of the winds within the community is that people are not
> > >interested in new protocols for IPv4.
> > >
> > >Just my opinion...
> > >
> > >Brian
> > >
> >
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