On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 10:50:07PM -0500, Clarke Sideroad wrote: > I think this whole CLI - GUI thing causes a lot more polarization > than it should. > There are I'm sure a lot of people like myself who use the linux > desktop day to day, have no problem dealing with the command line or > administering a few boxes. > A lot of desktop users are long term geeks, nerds and computer > weirdos who don't fit into the Gnome/Redhat "Future of the Desktop" > mold.
If I can give my 2 cents to this discussion, I would like to point out that the "Conquest of the Desktop Market" is just a nonsense, and I believe that RedHat knows it very well. GNU/Linux has never taken off on desktops, and probably never will, first because the battle has already been won by Apple and second because desktops will practically disappear (meaning that they will represent an even smaller fraction of the overall market), replaced by smartphones and smart-tvs. Let's focus on the niche in which GNU/Linux has still the possibility to say a word, i.e. the server and backend world. This is exactly what RedHat is doing, in the end, with the systemd nonsense: one init to rule them all. They know very well that the market that counts for GNU/Linux is on the server side, and the systemd nonsense is the last strike to effectively wipe out all its competitors there. And they have already made a big step in that direction, mainly thanks to the silent and quick adoption of the systemd nonsense by virtually all the distros which might interfere with the plan, including SuSe and Debian. Let's try to focus on making a init-free debian-like distro for the moment, even at the cost of temporarily loosing some functionality (e.g., GNOME) and/or some users (e.g., GNOMErs). IMHO, it's far better (and maybe easier) to find tricks and hacks to let GNOME run on a functioning Devuan later on, than delaying the release of a functioning Devuan just to have GNOME on it since from the beginning. Too many projects have already been drowned by the GNOME nonsense.... My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
