On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:12:39AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: [cut]
> > Then there is the abomination GTK3 has become. I guess this makes sense > in light that GNOME developers are maintaining it and seem to have > hinted that its use should be exclusively for GNOME. Fine. > Unfortunately, many projects that were based on GTK2 now face either > moving to GTK3 and its poor UI or moving to another toolkit or simply > ending development. The update of Firefox from 45 esr to 52 esr shows > just what a backwards leap GTK3 is. Suddenly dragging a small icon to > another tab results in the icon appearing about 10X normal size. This > is happening in Devuan and Salix so it's not a distribution or > installation specific issue. > I have no particularly strong feelings against GNOME 3, the main reason being that I have never user any Desktop Environment in a serious way, and I am still happy with WMaker/xmonad. I am quite disappointed by the way GNOME has been tightly knit with a large part of Debian, but that story is mostly irrelevant to the discussion. What could be relevant is that, as several people have already pointed out, GNOME 3 is still available for platforms in which systemd is not present (e.g., FreeBSD: https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/). The main problem in having "that" GNOME 3 in Devuan is the availability of a sufficient number (which I cannot quantify, but would probably be >1) of maintainers who are willing to delve into the FreeBSD port, and transform that huge thing into a viable set of deb packages which play well with the stuff currently present in Devuan (ascii? beowulf?). This is totally doable, if people really want GNOME 3 in Devuan. But again, keeping asking for something to happen does not increase the probability that it will happen. Working to make it happen is the safest way to avoid disappointment. As a matter of "completeness" and "universality" I would like to have a de-systemd-ised GNOME 3 in Devuan, but I lack the interest, the skill, the motivation, and the time to work on that. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
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