On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:12:48AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 02/01/2018 à 22:42, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit :
> > Terminator on ascii is 1.90 and depends on gtk3 - I was not very
> > surprised to find it not functional any more.  But Terminator from
> > jessie (0.97, gtk2) still works on ascii.
> > 
> > Anyway, nothing beats urxvt:-)
> 
>     In a fist try, I wasn't able to find urxvt on Ascii, but I got it today,
> simply searching for rxvt*. Stupid me!
> 
>     This terminal emulator is maybe the only one not depending on libvte,
> not speaking of libcairo, which several others depend on.

I'm afraid that you didn't look too closely -- there's not exactly a dearth
of terminal emulators (north of 50).  _Good_ terminal emulators might be
less plentiful, but everyone has their own opinion here.

>     There are several versions available on Ascii: rxvt-unicode,
> rxvt-unicode-256color, rxvt-unicode-lite. All 3 package are incompatible,
> but this incompatibility shows up in a bizarre way in Synaptic: when you
> select one for installation and another one is already installed, you are
> not prompted with the mesage that this other should be removed; instead the
> new package or both are marked as broken. I'm not expert in .deb, but there
> seems to be a mess in package dependencies.

A bug of this kind would be caught by automated piuparts testing, or
reported (with a RC severity) by a human, thus I'm quite certain there's
something else broken on your system.

This said, in buster/beowulf the mess of rxvt packages got culled literally
yesterday: there's only rxvt-unicode now which ships what used to be
rxvt-unicode-256color.  All the rest, including non-Unicode rxvt, aterm, etc
has been replaced with dummy packages depending on rxvt-unicode.

This was done for a number of reasons:
* a terminal that doesn't support UTF-8 is worthless.  I'm for one pushing
  for removal of encoding freedom, as there's no reason to use ancient
  encodings for a system locale anymore, and not supporting them saves a
  lot of code.
* non-256color variants used a non-standard color palette incompatible with
  any other terminal emulator.  There's no way to sniff the palette used,
  even assuming that "rxvt" means 88color would break on most other distros,
  and many terminals don't support setting your own palette.
* aterm's patches have been merged into rxvt-unicode ages ago
* variants other than rxvt-unicode have been dead upstream since forever


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