On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:44:19PM -0700, Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> The key, however, is that this proposal is really redefining HTTP ports
> 80 and 443 (if that's the direction you go), and you need to get
> consensus on that. It's not enough to simply say "we want to do it and
> it works as currently specd".

The properties this draft exploits for detection are completely
fundamential to HTTP/1.x and HTTP/2. There is no way anything that
breaks those properties can be deployed on mass scale without a new
ALPN, which should be ample warning to the server that new things
are going on.

This isn't "unextendable because of middleboxes", it is "unextendable
because the endpoints can't negotiate".


-Ilari

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