From: dns-privacy <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim Wicinski
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:12 PM
To: DNS Privacy Working Group <[email protected]>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] WG strategy on opportunistic vs authenticated 
moving forward



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All,



The chairs have been watching the working group while we prepare for the 
upcoming meeting, and working through the proposals and arguments that keep 
coming up. We feel there is strong consensus to work on opportunistic 
encryption and that it may be beneficial to discuss possible experimental 
deployments with a version of the currently documented approach 
(draft-ietf-dprive-unauth-to-authoritative).



The concern with lumping the root, TLDs, and SLDs into one solution is that 
there are contractual issues with what can be in a zone above an SLD. These 
limitations are potentially an issue with some solutions that need/want new 
records in the parent’s zone. We feel like the WG will not be able to make 
additional progress on any of the proposed solutions until we can reach 
consensus on whether the solution should be homogeneous from the root down or 
that the real focus is on SLDs and down.



We've asked Paul and Petr to not focus on the common-features document and move 
that content  back into their draft.  The authors of 
draft-rescorla-dprive-adox-latest will be incorporating concepts from 
draft-schwartz-dprive-name-signal as a next step for the authenticated 
encryption proposal. This should provide a more concrete proposal that can be 
considered for WG adoption.



The chairs would like to solicit any input/feedback on the above as we prepare 
for our session during IETF 111.



[SAH] Knowing that there are concerns from the root server operators and 
operators of some top-level domains about both the server resource overhead of 
adding support for encryption and the value proposition in doing so, my 
preference would be for the WG to focus on solutions for authoritative name 
servers serving zones that aren’t delegation-centric. The 
recursive-to-authoritative resolution environment is already heterogeneous, and 
data minimization techniques (such as QNAME minimization) are available to 
reduce information disclosure during exchanges at the delegation-centric 
levels. There may be more interest in experimentation using 
non-delegation-centric zones and name servers where the data minimization 
techniques aren’t available, and those experiments can help guide the 
“increased deployment in other parts of the DNS hierarchy” mentioned in the 
statement from the root server operators [1].



[1] https://root-servers.org/media/news/Statement_on_DNS_Encryption.pdf



Scott

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