> Paul Wouters <mailto:p...@nohats.ca>
> Friday, October 31, 2014 9:29 AM
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
>> if you have a business grade connection to the internet, you should be
>> able to establish a PTR for each real host.
>
> Oh, you want me to pay an additional $2000/month to use IPv6 with email.

no, sir, and that's the second time you've attributed a desire to me
that i don't possess. (putting it in the form of a question makes it no
more palatable.)
>
>> in other words i didn't relegate your address to third party status.
>> that bed was on fire when you laid down on it.
>
> So much priviledge, wow, very Postel :P

people who want their mail to get through relay it through servers that
have PTR's. that's not news. you could:

1. pay $2000 (or whatever) for business-grade connectivity;
2. get a tunnel to sixxs or some other ipv6 tunnel broker;
3. buy a cheap virtual server in some cloud somewhere;
4. send me a 1U which i can host on my comcast business connection;
5. accept a free "bhyve" VM running freebsd on my personal "cloud".

note, #4 and #5 are only available to people i have drank beer with, so,
mr. wouters certainly qualifies.

if you want an option that's not on the menu, it's your job to define
it, and probably build it. if your preferred solution is that everyone
accepting e-mail stop looking for PTR's, then The Princess Bride has
this wisdom for you:

> Inigo Montoya: Who are you?
> Man in Black: No one of consequence.
> Inigo Montoya: I must know...
> Man in Black: Get used to disappointment.
> Inigo Montoya: 'kay. 

-- 
Paul Vixie
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