It appears that Paul Vixie  <[email protected]> said:
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>None of the above. Do what RFC 2136 does to send updates to the primary 
>authority, or do what RFC 1996
>does to send notifications to all listed authorities. Any new signaling is 
>effectively a way to go out
>of band. The system is complete as it is. 

Without manual configuration, how is the child supposed to know where to find
the stealth parent to notify?

R's,
John

>On Nov 8, 2023 12:06, Peter Thomassen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Dear DNSOP, 
>
>As laid out at the DNSOP session on Tuesday, 
>draft-ietf-dnsop-generalized-notify (and also
>draft-johani-dnsop-delegation-mgmt-via-ddns) require a method for locating the 
>parent-side endpoint
>(target) where the child DNS operator can send a NOTIFY for DS update (or 
>other kind of signal). 
>
>Locating the target via a DNS query needs a predictable qname and type. The 
>feeling from the room was
>that for various reasons, a new rrtype with SVCB semantics should be used. 
>
>As for the qname, the authors would like to gather some feedback from the list 
>regarding the preferred
>approach. The below uses the domain "child.se" for illustration: 
>
>Alternative #1(a): Look up record at se. (delegating parent's apex) 
>- Simple 
>- Clogs the apex with more records 
>- Likely does not cover all use cases (such as per-registrar target, when they 
>want to process the NOTIFY) 
>
>Alternative #1(b): Look up record at _notify.se. (some underscore label below 
>parent) 
>- Slightly more complex than above 
>- Avoids clogging the apex, at the expense of some namespace pollution 
>- Covers same use cases 
>
>Alternative #2: Look up record at child._notify.se. (or other magic label) 
>- Allows parent to publish per-child targets (e.g. the registrar's endpoint) 
>    * Needs maintenance or synthesis 
>- Magic label could be considered namespace pollution 
>- Unneeded complexity if parent is not a registry (e.g. a university) 
>
>Alternative #3: Try #2, and on failure fall back to #1(a) or #1(b) 
>- Combines simplicity and flexibility, but conceptually most complex 
>- Might cause two DNS queries 
>
>Please weigh in on what you think is the best approach. 
>
>Thanks, 
>Johan, John, Peter 
>
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