Hi all,

I agree with John here.

Am 09.11.2023 um 11:11 schrieb John R Levine:
On Wed, 8 Nov 2023, Brian Dickson wrote:
The target for a NOTIFY would necessarily be found in the SOA record of the
registrant's zone, not the parent's zone. I think that's where the
confusion has arisen.

There's definitely confusion here but I don't think it's mine.

The child (registrant) puts a CDS record in its zone, and then it wants the parent (registry and/or registrar) to look at it and update the DS in the parent (typically TLD zone) so it needs to notify the parent to tell it to take a look. The child's SOA lists the child's own primary NS, not the parent's, so notifying itself won't help.

Apropos Joe's message, the child could hypothetically try and send the NOTIFTY to the parent SOA, e.g. a.gtld-servers.net for .com or .net. But those are clouds of anycast servers and even if you can get that to work, they belong to the registry while the notify needs go go to the registrar so it can update the registry via EPP.

Even if you don't want to notify the registrar, but want to notify the registry (because it's implementing CDS), the TLD's SOA record might still not help.

Take for example our TANGO Registry Services. We use ironDNS for the DNS part of our TLD. So the TLD's SOA record has information about the ironDNS name servers. However, the server doing the CDS scanning is part of the registry software TANGO (not the DNS infrastructure ironDNS). Therefore you need to know what endpoint of the registry you need to send the NOTIFY to. This would just be a service listening for NOTIFYs to re-initiate the scanning, but it's not a name server at all. Setting this endpoint in the TLD zone's SOA record as a pseudo primary name server does not seem to be a good approach. We would a different way to specify the NOTIFY target.

Cheers,

Michael

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