I'm totally fine with "dnsext", or perhaps "dnsman" (DNS protocol maintenance) if we want an analog to the v6ops/6man split.
My views on cute names have changed over the years. I now think these are mainly fun for the "in crowd" and less welcoming to others. Also, the camel trope, in my view, is way overused at this point. While it is often used to usefully beat back bad ideas, it is often used more broadly to push back against useful changes too. And the DNS protocol certainly has many deficiencies and areas for improvement. I am not in favor of memorializing this trope in the name of a DNS working group. Shumon. On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 1:22 PM Joe Abley <jabley= [email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I realise that thinking up names for things is everybody's favourite > hobby, but I suggest that since dnsext is an old, closed working group and > what we are talking about is a new, open working group with a fresh > charter, a different name is the path of least confusion. > > I'm sure I'm not the only one who suggested the name camel for this new > working group, but I do think it is excellent. Anybody who doesn't > understand it has a motivation to find out about it, which is an exercise I > might suggest is entirely worthwhile. > > > Joe > > On 6 Oct 2026, at 18:59, Frederico A C Neves <fneves= > [email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2026 at 03:22:09PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > If we need a boring self-explanatory name, I would be happy to go back to > dnsext... > > > dnsext will definitely help with old archives, lists, .procmail, mutt > macros and obviously good memories ;-) > > > Ondrej > -- > > > Fred > > Ondřej Surý (He/Him) > [email protected] > > A gentle nudge is always appreciated if I take a little longer to reply. > > On 6. 10. 2026, at 15:18, Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Congratulations on doing the split that had been needed since dnsext > closed decades ago! > > > On Oct 6, 2026, at 09:04, Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > my humble proposal for the name of the new INT WG DNS group is... > > CAMEL - Continued Amendment and Maintenance of Essential Lookups > > > Cute ! > > But more seriously, names should be meaningful and where possible self > explanatory- especially to help new participants, so something as boring as > dnsdev would be much better even if it’s far less fun. > > Note that as I have previously said, the role of Tech Advisor is ill > defined at the IETF level already, and is especially a poor fit for dnsop, > which is literally a room full of Tech Advisors. It puts an uncomfortable > poorly defined weight on the opinion of one dns expert’s view. (I hold this > view this irrespectively of the person assigned to this role, past, > current and future, and think this position should be abolished entirely, > including the one I am uncomfortably holding at WIMSE - I think that was a > mistake too and I’d be happy to lose that role there) > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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