protocol and payload.

dns and rrsig

On Wed, Oct 7, 2026 at 6:47 AM Ondřej Surý <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, dnsman feels definitely wrong to me. I’m looking at other active wg
> and these names pop up:
>
> dns - I actually like that idea, Ted, there’s a lot of groups named like
> this
> dnsbis (DNS, like httpbis is HTTP)
> dnsm (DNS maintenance; sshm, tcpm)
> dnsmaint (DNS maintenance; mailmaint)
> dnsme (DNS maintenance and extensions; ipsecme)
> dnscore (DNS core protocol; sipcore)
> dnsp (DNS Protocol; but too close to dnsop)
> dnsu (DNS update; emu)
> dnswg (DNS Working Group; rtgwg)
>
> Out of these - dns, dnswg and dnsme are my favorites.
>
> Ondrej
> --
> Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
>
> A gentle nudge is always appreciated if I take a little longer to reply.
>
> On 6. 10. 2026, at 22:24, Ted Lemon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 6 Oct 2026, at 19:47, Shumon Huque <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm totally fine with "dnsext", or perhaps "dnsman" (DNS protocol
> maintenance) if we want an analog to the v6ops/6man split.
>
>
> I think dnsman is probably not ideal for.. reasons. If a new name is
> needed, DNSINT sounds fine. DNSEXT also seems fine. Or, here's a crazy
> idea, "DNS". :)
>
> Okay, probably not.
>
> My views on cute names have changed over the years. I now think these are
> mainly fun for the "in crowd" and less welcoming to others.
>
>
> This is a pretty good argument against.
>
> Also, the camel trope, in my view, is way overused at this point. While it
> is often used to usefully beat back bad ideas, it is often used more
> broadly to push back against useful changes too. And the DNS protocol
> certainly has many deficiencies and areas for improvement. I am not in
> favor of memorializing this trope in the name of a DNS working group.
>
>
> Also a good argument. I liked the idea of CAMEL on first read, but I think
> the points raised against it are compelling.
>
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