On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:40:12PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 21:27 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:18:08PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 10:21 -0700, David Conrad wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looking for a bit of advice...
> > > >
> > > > On 1 June 2006, the RIRs are going to stop providing support for
> > > > ip6.int.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any reason anyone can think of that says we shouldn't remove
> > > > ip6 from the int zone?
> > >
> > > Only one, which is the same as RFC1918: misconfigured (they are not
> > > updated) implementations will try to query for it. Thus it might be an
> > > idea to point ip6.int to the AS112 boxes.
> >
> > since it is not a configuration option, i'm not sure
> > this is an accuate statement...
>
> On Solaris it is a configuration option. And the version of a resolver
> certainly also falls under 'configuration' of the machine. Upgrade it.
> That has been said to you and many other people already for the last
> couple of years already.
"upgrade" is not a configuration option... at least in
the lexicon of most folks i know.
>
> > however the results are the same.
> > There is no good reason to dump yet more
> > traffic onto the unsuspecting auth servers.
>
> They get the lookup for ip6.int anyway, thus that does not matter and
> the query rate is nice and low and almost non-existent. Especially when
> 3ffe::/16 disappears 6 days after the shutdown of ip6.int.
for you, 3ffe::/16 has already disapeared, no?
and you can't dictate what will happen to all sites
globally can you? Of course you can...
> Recall that most of the 'old' resolvers, who are only able to do ip6.int
> exist on the 6bone. Those people who still use it clearly don't care
> about it and they can use their local ip6.int resolver to keep it
> running.
>
> But if you really want, just stick a:
> ip6.int DNAME ip6.arpa.
been there, done that. IANA didn't want to support it
and given the DNS flexability for coding relative or absolute
lables, one would have had to get everyone using this space to
agree to NOT use FQDN's in their DNS configurations so that the
DNAME haq will work. I GUESS it could still be ram-rodded
down the operations folks throats...
>
> in the roots and everybody will be happy (except Bill who looses his
> domain)
which domain is mine here? If you refer to IP6.INT, it's not
mine, i'm simply the custodian. I don't care one way or the other
if it stays or goes... I do want stability for folks that still
want or need it and to minimize unneeded DNS traffic.
Others seem to want to force change on otheres, where they are not
asked to pay to costs of migration.
>
> > > On the other side, the query rate is so low that configuring it on AS112
> > > is more of an overhead and annoyance than getting the queries in the
> > > first place.
> > >
> > > IMHO you can safely remove ip6.int from DNS.
> >
> > and IMHO, no is not the time. There is no harm in leaving the
> > delegations in place.
>
> Bill, even *YOU* are not using it:
who ever said i was?
> <y.ip6.int> ...
Ah.. the experimental testbed... Sometimes it works, sometimes
it does not... at the moment, that particular machine is lame,
since we moved the updates from the 3ffe:: space to 2001:: space
and that site has not changed over, they are serving old data...
> So come on get over it and shut it down. It was fun watching it being
> broken for the last decade; see 6bone mailinglist and several other ops
> lists which you read.
when/if the IANA asks me to... since the IANA asked me to set it
up. broken behaviour has a whole lot to do w/ lack of communication,
-AND- some folks in the communities insistance that this delegation
should be shunned along w/ 3ffe::... Orphans can't always be choosy.
Now we can continue this cheerful debate... but the important
things have been said.
The IANA has asked the community if it would be ok to remove
the delegation.
You said YES.
I said OK, with the caveat that shutting it down will cause some
residual, unneeded traffic and there would be no harm it leaving the
delegations intact.
The rest is apparently a religious crusade to wipe out all remenants
of the old ways.
>
> Greets,
> Jeroen
>
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