On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Robert Edmonds <edmo...@mycre.ws> wrote:

> Hi, Shumon:
>
> I recognize the characteristic output generated by DNSDB :-)
>

My failed attempt to provide you with a minor degree of anonymity! :-)

Thanks for the additional analysis. And I agree with your guesses. A
clearer picture of likely events is emerging ..

Shumon.


>
> Looking at the NS records in the .COM zone, too, one sees a change of
> delegated nameservers in late January:
>
>     ;;  bailiwick: com.
>     ;;      count: 120
>     ;; first seen in zone file: 2014-09-22 16:14:40 -0000
>     ;;  last seen in zone file: 2015-01-19 17:29:49 -0000
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns1.transip.nl.
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns2.transip.eu.
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns0.transip.net.
>
>     ;;  bailiwick: com.
>     ;;      count: 43
>     ;; first seen in zone file: 2015-01-22 17:25:42 -0000
>     ;;  last seen in zone file: 2015-03-09 16:25:34 -0000
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns1.p38.dynect.net.
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns2.p38.dynect.net.
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns3.p38.dynect.net.
>     hbonow.com. IN NS ns4.p38.dynect.net.
>
> The first NS RRset coincides (within hours/days) of the DS and DNSKEY
> records appearing.
>
> It appears TransIP is a VPS/DNS/domain/web hosting provider, and they
> describe DNSSEC signing as a feature of their DNS hosting service:
>
>     https://www.transip.eu/domain-name/transdns/
>
>     [...] TransDNS is the foundation of our DNSSEC implementation, a DNS
>     protocol security extension. Signing more than 500.000 domain names
>     with DNSSEC was a challenge we gladly took. Because of TransDNS we
>     were one of the first domain providers in The Netherlands that
>     signed all domain names. We are now the largest DNSSEC provider in
>     the world. We could not have done this with third-party solutions.
>     That is why we develop everything in-house.
>
> I would guess that the hbonow.com domain had a change of registrar and a
> change of registrant in late January, and the DS record was somehow left
> in place without anyone noticing before yesterday's launch.
>
> Shumon Huque wrote:
> > I did a quick check of a passive DNS database, and I see evidence of a
> > DNSKEY record, seen only once, and at one point in time ()
> >
> > count           1
> > first seen      2014-09-25 02:51:55 -0000
> > last seen       2014-09-25 02:51:55 -0000
> > hbonow.com.     DNSKEY     256 3 7
> > AwEAAbdwDjj6iKhhoft8CChLX27lJtvpeQOJ3Chwj4dD\
> > p+jkszfH0BkG fZEA9IG1qMPWlwKnpMuu+zK9UALSCFqHgCOB5twHDDBSQZtcAtEphL2Q
> > Sz63p5Cc3\
> > dfttmeoRSyrEM3OUb5r4kD+8koRF3J/lqZIjOuGubIwGLyc qQY1WXNj
> > hbonow.com.     DNSKEY     256 3 7
> > AwEAAdCFum57JkPoCzS0VUaS7HWWC2ZBB1AJpirzUAq0\
> > fMQ3o5e9hY6G tcxc+/nYwGJOyV9RyGqptgxPdhIQkig5bSjFnFc8vHsXFELP2I9dHccE
> > hd6j26W0N\
> > cLpvLPMCEFfuXHSaRMFST9hYQQeHQgalMDfwBgbYLc55wFe vYPfhqdh
> > hbonow.com.     DNSKEY     257 3 7
> > AwEAAZ7udsRZQA3WhGVMXSEmgNUFgaSH06sAEhAbiZOE\
> > xP51hcmwg+O3 /eouCV7RsePUKkaQQqOo7jDs6D8gj2uFlPG2Vv4bfz6+vv1Xp7sBKGm4
> > F9rjxwHpM\
> > b7l0RGGejr3vuiURcRYtrbbQu85di8qt7Q9V6YxxryObj5L
> > NnM9IB5p5SEpMfGByyA3iuDVvZSw6N2\
> > G90/SiNoVbFCW5hTGTocZNDBw
> > csTO2WyHrtXebP32tuwOef24nvSlBknI+PNNH3TEg3BPgE+rNQ8mo\
> > Y4I Zoz/kw19oHNOi/8Rspa7LCyANg1exaGKWiVnaX5uGBxQmyEH4UKd4iF6 IQK4TC1h4l0=
> >
> > Was this a temporary test? Or was it installed for a while, but the zone
> > was dormant (not queried) for DNSKEY records.
> >
> > The DS seems to have been there for much longer:
> >
> > bailiwick       com.
> > count           162
> > first seen in zone file 2014-09-23 16:14:19 -0000
> > last seen in zone file  2015-03-09 16:25:34 -0000
> > hbonow.com.  DS   51249 7 1 90DC90D0578FCFDDF6ED5DE0B35E9652CD2396A8
> >
> > I'll stop speculated now, and wait for info from definitive sources ..
>
> --
> Robert Edmonds
>

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