What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got
a round to doing:
1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created
by the Wizards with the basics of what to do.
2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is)
   a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the
basics of what to do.
   b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a
database and how to 
       turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a
flat database and a    
       more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the
principles.)
   c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of
the tables and   
       forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting
tables.
   d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries,
views, and reports.

--Dan 

On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +0000, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I used to think that Base might need 2 "Getting Started" guides.  
> 1.  for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with routine 
> maintenance  
> 2.  for designers  building a database and front-end and for advanced 
> maintenance.  
> 
> Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is possible 
> when building a database with Base as the front-end.  I don't think we can 
> really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the one for 2 is 
> done.  
> 
> Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too?  If 
> only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that 
> chapter still make sense?  Wouldn't it remove something crucial?  The GS 
> Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail.  
> Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge and 
> stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible.  If the 
> chapter still makes sense then moving those sections to the full guide for 
> Base would be great imo too.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Hazel Russman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Hazel Russman <[email protected]>
> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base
> To: "LibreOffice" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 17:15
> 
> I have just uploaded this new version by Dan into the feedback folder. I am 
> not too happy with it in its present form. It is well written and clearly 
> explained, but I think it goes into too much depth for a GS chapter. It is 
> also very long and will be even longer if we incorporate the additional 
> section that Dan sent to me (I have not looked at this at all yet).
> 
> Someone who looks at a Getting Started guide is basically asking: "Can I use 
> this program?". And that has two aspects: does it do something that I would 
> find useful, and can I understand it enough to use it? After reading Dan's 
> work, I am inclined to answer yes to the first and no to the second! And I 
> know something about databases, having worked as an information scientist.
> 
> I have therefore indicated two sections which I think ought to be transferred 
> into the Base Guide proper.
> 
> A big problem with Base is that you need to have a working database before 
> you can do many of the things described in a user guide of any sort. And 
> databases are not easy to design and create. I suggest tentatively that the 
> input/output sections of the Base guide might refer back to the creation of 
> this useful database in the Getting Started Guide. The user could then read 
> up on how to create the database, before trying the more complex form and 
> report design tasks that properly belong in the main guide. 
> 
> -- 
> Hazel Russman <[email protected]>
> 
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