I failed to send this to the list. On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Found it. I had turned it into a tutorial, titled "Creating a > Relational Database using Base", and it was listed in the HowTo and > Tutorial section of the Publications page. I have now copied that link > (and the link to the sample database used in the tutorial) to a spot > just below the Base Handbook on the Pubs page. > > I'm not sure how best to refer to that tutorial in the Base Handbook > itself, or whether we should restore the GS with Base chapter to its > earlier version, or what the least inelegant solution. > > --Jean > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The GS with Base chapter for LOv4.0 (available on the Publications >> page of the wiki) does cover the Table Design View, but the one for >> v4.2 does not. A quick solution to your immediate problem is to >> explicitly refer to the GS v4.0 chapter. >> >> --Jean >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The reason for the discrepancy is that the Getting Started chapter has >>> changed since that was written. The previous chapter is now a >>> standalone document, which should be referenced here instead of the GS >>> chapter. It should be, but isn't, listed on the Publications page of >>> the wiki. I'll find where it's gone, and let you know. And I'll list >>> it on the wiki page. >>> >>> Thanks for catching this. >>> >>> --Jean >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Alan Cook <alanc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I'm updating the English translation of the Base Handbook from 3.5 to 4.2, >>>> and have run across a problem concerning which I'd appreciate some advice >>>> and feedback. >>>> >>>> In Chapter 3, "Tables," the section following the heading *Creating >>>> Tables/Creation using the GUI* begins as follows: >>>> >>>> "Database creation using the GUI is described in detail in Chapter 8, >>>> "Getting Started with Base," in the /Getting Started with LibreOffice/ >>>> book. >>>> Therefore only the main sources of error are described here." >>>> >>>> The problem is that [the first sentence of] that statement is just plain >>>> false. >>>> >>>> The GUI offers two ways of creating tables: Use Wizard to Create Table and >>>> Create Table in Design View. The /Getting Started/ chapter only provides >>>> instructions for using the Wizard. The Wizard only provides database >>>> templates with preexisting table and field names. If you want to design a >>>> database for any purpose other than the ones that the templates cover, it's >>>> useless. >>>> >>>> So far as I can tell, there are no instructions provided anywhere in our >>>> documentation on how to create a table in Design View, which seems to me to >>>> be the method that most users are likely to use. (I could well be wrong >>>> about this, but if those instructions exist, they aren't located in the >>>> most >>>> logical place to look for them.) >>>> >>>> Moreover, the /Getting Started/ chapter explains only how to create a flat, >>>> single-table database. (I'm not sure why you'd want to do that rather than >>>> just use a spreadsheet, but . . . .) The material in the handbook, on the >>>> other hand, assumes that you're building a relational database with >>>> multiple >>>> tables. >>>> >>>> The reason I can't just ignore the problem is and go on is: The section >>>> that >>>> follows this introduction contains some new material in the German that >>>> needs to be translated. Translated super-literally, it doesn't make much >>>> sense. Good technical instructions are directed at the particular situation >>>> in which the user is going to need those instructions and tailored to the >>>> user's preexisting knowledge. That context is exactly what the current text >>>> doesn't provide, and what I need in order to put this stuff into >>>> comprehensible English. >>>> >>>> Any and all advice appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>>> Problems? >>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>> deleted
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