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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jean Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
> The GS with Base chapter for LOv4.0 (available on the Publications
> page of the wiki) does cover the Table Design View, but the one for
> v4.2 does not. A quick solution to your immediate problem is to
> explicitly refer to the GS v4.0 chapter.
>
> --Jean
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Jean Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The reason for the discrepancy is that the Getting Started chapter has
>> changed since that was written. The previous chapter is now a
>> standalone document, which should be referenced here instead of the GS
>> chapter. It should be, but isn't, listed on the Publications page of
>> the wiki. I'll find where it's gone, and let you know. And I'll list
>> it on the wiki page.
>>
>> Thanks for catching this.
>>
>> --Jean
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Alan Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm updating the English translation of the Base Handbook from 3.5 to 4.2,
>>> and have run across a problem concerning which I'd appreciate some advice
>>> and feedback.
>>>
>>> In Chapter 3, "Tables," the section following the heading *Creating
>>> Tables/Creation using the GUI* begins as follows:
>>>
>>> "Database creation using the GUI is described in detail in Chapter 8,
>>> "Getting Started with Base," in the /Getting Started with LibreOffice/ book.
>>> Therefore only the main sources of error are described here."
>>>
>>> The problem is that [the first sentence of] that statement is just plain
>>> false.
>>>
>>> The GUI offers two ways of creating tables: Use Wizard to Create Table and
>>> Create Table in Design View. The /Getting Started/ chapter only provides
>>> instructions for using the Wizard. The Wizard only provides database
>>> templates with preexisting table and field names. If you want to design a
>>> database for any purpose other than the ones that the templates cover, it's
>>> useless.
>>>
>>> So far as I can tell, there are no instructions provided anywhere in our
>>> documentation on how to create a table in Design View, which seems to me to
>>> be the method that most users are likely to use. (I could well be wrong
>>> about this, but if those instructions exist, they aren't located in the most
>>> logical place to look for them.)
>>>
>>> Moreover, the /Getting Started/ chapter explains only how to create a flat,
>>> single-table database. (I'm not sure why you'd want to do that rather than
>>> just use a spreadsheet, but . . . .) The material in the handbook, on the
>>> other hand, assumes that you're building a relational database with multiple
>>> tables.
>>>
>>> The reason I can't just ignore the problem is and go on is: The section that
>>> follows this introduction contains some new material in the German that
>>> needs to be translated. Translated super-literally, it doesn't make much
>>> sense. Good technical instructions are directed at the particular situation
>>> in which the user is going to need those instructions and tailored to the
>>> user's preexisting knowledge. That context is exactly what the current text
>>> doesn't provide, and what I need in order to put this stuff into
>>> comprehensible English.
>>>
>>> Any and all advice appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>>
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