Hi Dave and all.

A timely reminder.

This mail came in as junk which is clearly isn’t so as Moderator I let it 
through. This is a controlled list. Only members can have a mail distributed to 
the list. If you use an email address other than the one you registered under 
it will be treated as junk.

If you use more than one address I suggest you register all of them to avoid it 
happening.

Cheers.

Nige.

 

 

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
David McGonigal
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DOG mailing list] In Flight Emergency Actions Part 2 Fire!

 

Laurie

 

Yes apparently Col took Richard Mole for a flight. I didn’t recognise Yankee 
Tango so it’s probably about time for me to head to Camden soon. 

David

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On 16 Feb 2019, at 7:40 am, Laurie Hoffman via dog <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Dave,

Just thinking about the Dimona's behaviour in a severe groundloop. Agree that 
immediately after touchdown wouldn't be the best time to initiate the 
groundloop, but I think I'd be comfortable commencing one soon after.

 

The H36 is built like the proverbial Sydney Harbour Bridge. My understanding is 
that it rarely (if ever) goes up on its nose or over on its back in mishandled 
landing accidents. The airworthiness guys might like to comment on this. When 
you think about the loads in a groundloop these are towards the outer wing and 
downwards. Slamming the outer wing down isn't what I'm proposing but once 
getting it down and then holding down firmly while applying full opposite 
rudder. The undercarriage bow would probably hold up throughout albeit with 
damage and partial removal as the rod ends distorted/failed. During a grounloop 
its surprising just how slow the action seems as you dissipate energy even 
though it isn't that slow.

 

If the pilot assesses that they still have a couple of minutes before being 
consumed by fire then hold off maybe but I would rather suffer a fracture or 
cuts than burn or be overcome by toxic fumes.

 

 

We flew a fellow the other day who was in management with Peregrine when you 
worked for them and knew you. He has a British accent and was responsible for 
most of the continents excluding Antarctica. Will see if I can look up his name 
but that description probably sound familiar.

 

Best Regards

Laurie 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, 15 February 2019, 10:42:00 am AEDT, David McGonigal 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
wrote: 

 

 

Laurie,



On first thought the ground loop is tempting. But I’d probably want to take out 
“extreme” - the last thing you’d want would be for the aircraft to dig in and 
tip forward  (propelling you into the most likely fire source) or, worse, flip, 
leaving you trapped underneath a burning aircraft.

Best wishes,
David


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