I can read the data from my EDR in my Toyota with the Toyota OEM Service 
software and cable.  However, I could never use the data in court because 
technically, I am not licensed to have the software or tool.  Only Toyota is 
supposed to have it or licensed shops (and I’m guessing insurance companies).  
The software is about $2000 a year and the cable is about $400.  So a low cost 
shady company probably doesn’t have or want to spend the money for these tools.

 

That said… I’d see about taking your insurance company to small claims court.  
I’ve never heard of anyone being blamed for being at fault while they were 
struck from behind.  You can also file a claim with the State Insurance agency 
that oversees the company’s license.  This will DEFINITELY get your insurance 
company’s attention and make them reconsider going after the other party.

 

Sova

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brandon
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] how to read a vehichle's EDR?

 

Yes to all of this. Assumptions aside, my insurance company has always gone to 
bat for me (especially when I provided copies of all of my personal 
documentation of the scene pre/post 'event'). 

Shady low-rate insurance vs shady low-rate insurance...both looking for an easy 
out to stick one or both of the drivers with the tab.

Sorry for your bad situation. Lots of scum up there looking for a quick buck.






Brandon Mathis
KD7INF
[email protected]

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jerry Biehler <[email protected]> wrote:

Straying from the topic of the EDR, what is your insurance company doing about 
it? They are the ones who need to go after the other company, not you. That is 
their responsibility and why you pay insurance. It is basically unheard of for 
the person in behind to be not at fault.

-Jerry


> On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Jason Plumb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Wait, did you say TRUCK or MOBILE_HOT_TUB_SOAKING_UNIT_#1?
>
> If it's the latter, then clearly we need a more calculated/tactical community 
> response.
>
> -jason
>
> On 03/24/2015 07:25 PM, Mykle Hansen wrote:
>> HI all,
>>
>> Here’s an interesting one: my truck recently got rear-ended by a lady 
>> driving a 2008 car
>> that apparently contains an Event Data Recorder — an EDR, aka “black box” 
>> that is
>> supposed to detect collisions and record pertinent information, such as the 
>> speed the driver
>> was traveling when the collision happened.
>>
>> That would be a really interesting piece of information to know, because 
>> apparently
>> the lady who rear-ended my truck told her insurance company that my
>> truck front-ended her, somehow.  (A bald-faced lie.)  And her insurance 
>> company says it’s
>> her word against mine, so they’re refusing to pay for damages!
>>
>> I’m working on the legal front, but the lack of witnesses was making it an 
>> iffy case …
>> until I realized that her car probably recorded her velocity at the time of 
>> the crash, which
>> would provide the evidence I need to win in a court case.
>>
>> Seeing as my truck is probably not worth $10,000, I may not be able to get a 
>> lawyer interested
>> in this case, in which case I may go to small claims court, in which case I 
>> may actually
>> subpoena the data in her car’s EDR as evidence.  However, I’m really not 
>> sure who extracts
>> that data, or how it’s done.  I’m sure that as a plaintiff in a case I can’t 
>> read it myself; there’s
>> got to be some credible third-party who reads these things.
>>
>> What’s funny is, I read online about how this data is “very complicated to 
>> interpret” and
>> “requires specialized equipment costing $10,000 - $20,000”, but I also read 
>> about how
>> the fifteen data points it stores are standardized values and is readable 
>> through your car’s
>> data port.  Which of those things is true, I wonder?
>>
>> Anybody had any experience reading a car’s EDR, or know anyone who has?
>>
>> -m-
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