I'm really confused about what happened... I know it is off topic, but if
she rear ended you, how on earth is she arguing instead that you rear-ended
her? It would seem that the damage to the cars would make the reality
pretty clear cut.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Brandon <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes to all of this. Assumptions aside, my insurance company has always
> gone to bat for me (especially when I provided copies of all of my personal
> documentation of the scene pre/post 'event').
>
> Shady low-rate insurance vs shady low-rate insurance...both looking for an
> easy out to stick one or both of the drivers with the tab.
>
> Sorry for your bad situation. Lots of scum up there looking for a quick
> buck.
>
>
>
> Brandon Mathis
> KD7INF
> [email protected]
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jerry Biehler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Straying from the topic of the EDR, what is your insurance company doing
>> about it? They are the ones who need to go after the other company, not
>> you. That is their responsibility and why you pay insurance. It is
>> basically unheard of for the person in behind to be not at fault.
>>
>> -Jerry
>>
>> > On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Jason Plumb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Wait, did you say TRUCK or MOBILE_HOT_TUB_SOAKING_UNIT_#1?
>> >
>> > If it's the latter, then clearly we need a more calculated/tactical
>> community response.
>> >
>> > -jason
>> >
>> > On 03/24/2015 07:25 PM, Mykle Hansen wrote:
>> >> HI all,
>> >>
>> >> Here’s an interesting one: my truck recently got rear-ended by a lady
>> driving a 2008 car
>> >> that apparently contains an Event Data Recorder — an EDR, aka “black
>> box” that is
>> >> supposed to detect collisions and record pertinent information, such
>> as the speed the driver
>> >> was traveling when the collision happened.
>> >>
>> >> That would be a really interesting piece of information to know,
>> because apparently
>> >> the lady who rear-ended my truck told her insurance company that my
>> >> truck front-ended her, somehow.  (A bald-faced lie.)  And her
>> insurance company says it’s
>> >> her word against mine, so they’re refusing to pay for damages!
>> >>
>> >> I’m working on the legal front, but the lack of witnesses was making
>> it an iffy case …
>> >> until I realized that her car probably recorded her velocity at the
>> time of the crash, which
>> >> would provide the evidence I need to win in a court case.
>> >>
>> >> Seeing as my truck is probably not worth $10,000, I may not be able to
>> get a lawyer interested
>> >> in this case, in which case I may go to small claims court, in which
>> case I may actually
>> >> subpoena the data in her car’s EDR as evidence.  However, I’m really
>> not sure who extracts
>> >> that data, or how it’s done.  I’m sure that as a plaintiff in a case I
>> can’t read it myself; there’s
>> >> got to be some credible third-party who reads these things.
>> >>
>> >> What’s funny is, I read online about how this data is “very
>> complicated to interpret” and
>> >> “requires specialized equipment costing $10,000 - $20,000”, but I also
>> read about how
>> >> the fifteen data points it stores are standardized values and is
>> readable through your car’s
>> >> data port.  Which of those things is true, I wonder?
>> >>
>> >> Anybody had any experience reading a car’s EDR, or know anyone who has?
>> >>
>> >> -m-
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