On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:40:50 +0100, Sean Gibbins <[email protected]> wrote:

On 12/09/10 12:10, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
Do people speed past the school? What can be done to slow them down?

Bung a camera outside and send them a hefty fine?

But you've not stopped them speeding. You've only caught them once the crime has been committed.

I'm not the biggest fan of them but speed humps force people to slow, maybe humps that can be moved out of the way during times where children and uncontrollable people are not near the road. What about making the visibility in the area better so should someone be in the road, it is easier to spot them and take evasive action (this doesn't stop the speed per se. but it does stop the negative consequences of speeding).

What about trying to direct traffic around the school in the first place? I understand this one is a case of large investment nowadays. What about new schools though, can they be placed where people don't have to be near the big fast road.

Believe me, it works with at least some of the population

And for every person it works with, it causes another person to lose faith in the legal system.

a friend was caught by a camera, fined and had the option of attending a course or accepting the points on his licence.

These courses annoy me. Mainly because myself and a friend were caught speeding within three weeks of each other, coincidentally.

I was caught on open Motorway at 10pm, no other cars in sight. He was caught in a village at around 15:30. Who gets offered the awareness course, the person who had only himself to harm in a freak accident, or the one stopping himself having reaction time around children?

That isn't to say education is a good idea. But it feels alot like my friend got "let-off" with a slap on the wrist and a stern talking too when I argue he was doing the more dangerous act.

I take your point about surveillance society and people snooping on their peers too, but I think there is a massive gap between any ideal and what we currently have.

Sadly yes - I am an idealist and can see what I'd like to have in place. I lack the "how to get there".

In the meantime, if people are tearing up and down the street where your kids play and you can't get the police or council to take notice

Maybe this is the problem. We are unable to make the police/council take notice. Should the communication channels be better? Would more active policing allow the police to see the area in question?

I am certainly not suggesting that vigilantes seek out the offendersand punish them on the basis of evidence they have collected, dubiousor otherwise.

Of course not. Though would you not think less/gossip about the guy 3 doors up in his fancy car if you caught him repeatedly on your system. What about Ms Smith the busy body up the road?

And I am not saying the slippery slope has to be followed. In many cases it doesn't happen, people often find the safe path around it. I'd just prefer not to make people walk along the precipice in the first place.

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