Hello, Le 28/03/2011 23:45, Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra a écrit : > Hello, > > It's an interesting article, thanks to have write it Jean-Michel. > > Second me this article is not aggressive, but I understand the point of > view of the brother.
My feeling are in the comments of the main french article and stay the same. I'm trying to forward you the feelings of my borther reading. > 2011/3/28 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > JMP > Hello Gérald, > > G > The OpenSource aspects may be developed in another article. > > > > I'm afraid that none will take time to read this entire article and > click to another article which is seem far away for children and DDL. So > i prefer not to cut it actually The same for me, but I'm already intersted by these topics. > G > The share/contribute of knowledge may be described in this other > G > article. > > JMP > He's right in the sense that the article would be smaller then > easier to read. However my fear is that people never go reading the > second article… > > > I'm agree with JMP > > JMP > Honestly I reproach the most visible free software projects > for being too much silent about free software. Best example: > Firefox. With hundreds of millions JMP > of users, they should take > the opportunity to spread the free software spirit all around the > world. Their website should be obviously advertising for free > > JMP > software and their web browser should clearly show that it is > free software and why. Ok it's not written in the Mozilla manifesto… :( > > > French Mozilla team explain me that Linux for them is a little % of > their user... For them, the use of Mozilla product is just because they > are respectuous of the web. Also I'm quite sad that they make some > contracts with private companies (like their designer team using not > free software) and after they open their work. I prefer they call free > graphic designer for example or free other worker...but no... > > > G > The using of GNU/Linux in national organisation (french examples > with > G > references) is needed to implicate more users. > > JMP > He's right, we should localize the examples as much as > possible. However I think we need to keep striking examples even > coming from abroad. So maybe > > JMP > we may just add one or two examples that are also striking for > the country (eg. in France the Gendarmerie Nationale). Beware that > French is spoken in many > JMP > countries and French readers are not necessarily French, it is not > so easy… > > Yep think Francophonie ! > > > G > Some games present of DDL are already used in school. > > JMP > Good idea, it should be few words to add in the paragraph > “Won’t video games make them stupid?”. > > > Is it GCompris ? Another ? GCompris, is used in elementary school. > G > The article must not be negative about another usage of games or > G > computers (console, television, ...) > > JMP > I'm afraid I don't find it so much negative: TV/console are > not said to make stupid (except the sentence about school > performance for TV-addicted children – but this is official study), > nor to prevent from developing skills. We are just saying that > computers perform better at developing user skills. It would be > better to ask your brother what sentences he finds hurting. As I > understand his comment, I think the risk is to hurt TV/console > fanatic parents. I don't know if they're so many (when are you > becoming a fanatic?), but probably more and more numerous with > smartphones. > > JMP > Nevertheless some large IT companies are just dreaming that we > don't do anything else but gaming and surfing the Internet in order > to be able to dictate us what to buy, what to see, what to read, who > to meet, etc. They're trying to take the place TV has gained during > the last 10-15 years in France after TV channels came to the private > market. So to me it's difficult to keep silent about TV/consoles… > The main and essential difference is that computers, with free > software and a free Internet, escape the control of large companies > and governments. This is not a detail at all! > > > > I think we can do a little "polish" (to polish) on the french to become > less negative and more neutral :) Obviously with more reader we will do > it quickly and better. I will give it a try when i make the map of all > articles in all localisation and see if we already cover a "the real > manual of DDL". You must stay in the same spirit. > G > Stay positive and concentrate in DDL values is important and can > give > G > more users. > > > I love this :) Very true. > > > JMP > I'm still seeing a risk: I think most people will prefer TV or > consoles for their children if we do not compare a bit with them, > simply because advertising is incredibly higher for them than > computers for children. Moreover people already have TV sets and > many also have gaming consoles, so why bothering with DDL? Ok DDL is > free of charge, but TV too and games will be in a near future > because of smartphones. So as the article title say: why try DDL? ;) > > > I think is just the way to explain that. To be more diplomatic. I think, > actually, our user are more floss friendly but if we want DDL in every > house of children we have to be more cool with other DDL like (:D). > > > > G > Important article that can be interpreted in many manner. > > > Yeah! Avanti Troll ! If my mail was view as trolling, the goal wasn't. > JMP> So what's your opinion? > > > Done :) Amicalement, _______________________________________________ Doudoulinux-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/doudoulinux-dev
