On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 02:38:09AM +0000, Ian Molton wrote: > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:11:06 -0800 (PST) > Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, if that was all, it wouldnt be so bad... > > The project has no real documentation, theres no support from > anywhere, and there is little help from hardware manufacturers. Even > where there is, it doesnt encourage people to join in.
What a bunch of lies!!! Have you ever been in http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/ !? We have weekly meetings in IRC! You want encouragement from hardware manufacturers!? It's obvious that you need encouragement, but don't blame anybody except yourself. > With DRI you need to 'prove' you have manly balls by blindly fixing > something without any documentation. only then will you stand any > chance of ever seeing any documentation. > > To me, thats arse backwards. It should be that the documentation eases > people into develpoing the code. not the other way round. But there *are* specs for the Voodoo 3, so what are you complaining about!? I'm sorry to give such breaking news, but things just _don't_ appear by themselves. Not a DRI driver, not documentation, ... *nothing*. I agree that documentation is important and there is alot that can be done in that field, but then why don't developers-wanna-be, instead of whinning about lack of documentation, don't do something about it? When I first started with DRI and Linux (about 1.5 yrs ago) I made an huge effort to analyize about ~3 yrs worth of mails archives of two mailing lists (dri-devel and utah-glx-dev) and all the old documentation, but it was worth it. I've got a much better understanding of the architecture and the outcome was the "DRI Developer's FAQ" that you can read at http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/faq/ which has all the guidelines on how to get started with DRI. Funny coincidence, the idea was given by a guy also whining about documentation, but it took somebody to atually do it. BTW, Doxygen documentation for a subset of the radeon driver, the core of Mesa, the full DRM are in the forge - under the embedded Mesa umbrella. Note that documentation only helps until a certain point. No matter how much documented the existing code base is, it will still be _hard_ to write a driver from ground up, as it take alot of lines of code, and the proporcional debugging time. José Fonseca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
