Hi Arjen,

On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Arjen Lentz wrote:

On 27/04/2009, at 9:10 PM, Kay Röpke wrote:
On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Arjen Lentz wrote:

Drizzle is available under a GPL license and the bzr history contains, hopefully signed, commits from non-Sun employees, thus making it impossible for any current or future owner of Sun to simply take the code and run. Which is the whole reason for the existence of the GPL.

I'm sure Sun's lawyers could clarify this, but I wouldn't bother. Without a doubt management has done all the necessary work before this project was started.


Actually, BSD licensing of new externally written contributions is exactly what would allow Sun (or whomever owns Sun) to grab (a copy of the) the codebase and also sell it under a non-GPL license. After all, BSD allows them to do so and they do own the GPL licensed bits of the code. This doesn't take anything away from the community or contributors, but it does give Sun some extra opportunity (such as, effectively, dual-licensing just like MySQL has done).


Interesting. I wasn't aware that contributions should all be under BSD. Thanks for the pointer!


Hold it, note that I did not say that.

mmh, that's true.

You mentioned that both BSD and GPL are currently used.

Yes, I my mail indicated my understanding that both are used for contributions.

I merely described the consequences of either choice (by a contributor) on what Sun can or cannot subsequentially do with it, and noted my personal preference for BSD on the client-library side and GPL on the server side.

Ok, I misread that.

Please be tad more careful before assigning non-specified meaning to what people write, this could cause a great deal of confusion and misdirection.

Isn't that a bit of a harsh judgement for a misunderstanding? After all you have the chance to correct where I'm wrong and taking a short email thread out of context is quite hard. I doubt anyone will have a hard time following this discussion.

So, here's what lead me to my statement: 
http://drizzle.org/wiki/FAQ#How_are_my_contributions_licensed.3F
I think it's rather clear and hard to misunderstand. The fact that you've started with pointing out why BSD is a bad choice in your opinion tricked my jet-lagged brain into thinking you were confirming the FAQ. Sorry to wrongly attribute that to you.

cheers,
-k
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