On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:15:52 +0200
Cyril' <ds...@minou.biz> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
[...]


> I'm new to Dspam, with average postfix-skill.
> I plan to have an antispam relay in front of an existing mail server
> (currently qmail, to be migrated later).
> 
Have you installed that backend server with QMail? I ask because I would like 
to know why you don't stick with QMail on the front/relay server since you 
obviously seem to have knowledge in QMail. Why then the switch to Postfix?


> I have been searching for nights, in the last weeks, for a comprehensive
> and *working* tutorial, howto, or just efficient advice on how to
> achieve this. I am quite desperate and even wonder if someone really has
> done that, or just heard about it. Most tutorial link to each other but
> none of them is really complete.... not event the famous doc/relay.txt ,
> sooo light. No more "appliance.txt", sometimes referred...
> 
> I went throught several issues while trying to merge all of these
> partial info :
> 
> - dspam requiring a valid virtual recipient for each incoming message??
> I am ok to even process mails for non-existing users. ok, that may be
> suboptimal BUT I don't want to care about synchronizing between user
> databases... Maybe later, once the basic functionality would be working
> - I never got any Positive ?? Processed spamassasson (quite old???)
> corpus, with no error, but still nothing, all innocent..
> - I never could get any retrain? I tried hacks using spam-...@domain,
> some third-party dspam-retrain script, but never got any result, log
> about something, or else.
> - I never got any log from dspam itself... should that fall into
> /var/log/maillog?
> - I am unsure on the client/server(or not) mode... Should I : start
> bin/dspam --daemon (which does not detach??) and then dspam --client?
> And this will be functionnaly equivalent to firing dspam itself, with
> neiher --daemon or --client option?
> 
> I am very surprised not to find any valid help on the relay thing... I
> thought that would be quite generic to build (working with any mta,
> functionnaly transparent), and therefore easy to find support for... I
> am a bit anxious on being unable to solve this issue.. :-(
> 
There are sooo many documentations out on the net describing how to setup an 
Postfix gateway. Just by following the links from the main Postfix page I 
stumbled across this little thing for FreeBSD: 
http://www.flakshack.com/anti-spam/wiki/index.php

This alone is way to much to do but the part about installing and configuring 
Postfix is the minimum you need to have that Postfix gateway up and running:
http://flakshack.com/anti-spam/wiki/index.php?page=Installing+and+Configuring+Postfix

Another documentation describing how to setup an gateway (this time with 
SpamAssassin) is the one from the Gentoo Linux distribution: 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mailfilter-guide.xml

It as well describes basically what needs to be done to get an filtering 
gateway. Those principles described there are valid for DSPAM too.

Another one targeting Gentoo Linux and DSPAM in relay mode: 
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Dspam_relay

And again another one for Gentoo Linux and DSPAM: 
http://devnull.com/kyler/dspam.20040512.html

You don't even have to go and search the net for howtos since even the Postfix 
main page has informations on how to setup an Postfix gateway: 
http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall

See that link above? STANDARD CONFIGURATION. Standard. Such setups are nothing 
special. In German I would say: 0-8-15 (when some one says 0-8-15 in German 
then this means that it is normal. Like you would tell me that you jumped 3 
meters (thinking that this is something ultra special) and I would respond: 
"0-8-15" (meaning: Average. Normal. Nothing special. Not worth mentioning it. 
etc...))

etc, etc, etc... there are thousands of howtos out on the net telling you how 
to setup an gateway with Postfix. Just use any ine of them to setup a Postfix 
system. Don't care about DSPAM. As soon as you have that Postfix gateway up and 
running then adding DSPAM is really easy (probably less then 5 to 10 minutes 
work).

I don't remember how many Postfix systems over the years I have put in front of 
various other MTAs? Many, many, many.

Your mail from this morning got me just on the wrong foot. You wrote so bold 
that DSPAM is the problem and that it can not be an easy way to setup something 
like that with DSPAM since there is no documentation, etc... that got me 
somehow furious. Searching two weeks? TWO WEEKS? Where the hell have you 
searched? The net is flooded with howtos about gateway setups with Postfix. It 
is pretty hard to not find a document describing how to put Postfix in front of 
Exchange, Lotus Domino or any other MTA out there. Just take them and get that 
Postfix gateway working. Just that. When you have that working then (I repeat 
myself) adding DSPAM is easy as 1-2-3.

Most of those howtos about Postfix gatways are small. Not because they try 
extra hard to be small. No. It is not that. It is just that setting up an 
Postfix gateway is really, really, really not much work. Just querying Google 
with "Postfix gateway" should deliver enough info:
http://www.knowplace.org/pages/howtos/smtp_gateway_for_multiple_domains_with_postfix.php
http://beginlinux.com/server_training/mail-server/1044-postfix-mail-gateway
http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_spam_filter_mail_gateway
http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/
http://goodingredients.org/recipe/articles/email3/postfix-gateway.html

Those 6 links from above where all on the first page when I googled. Is this so 
hard to setup for you? I mean the Postfix gateway?


> (Last version of dspam, 3.9, of course)
> 
> Thank for any help,
> Cyril'
> 
-- 
Kind Regards from Switzerland,

Stevan Bajić

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