On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:44:57 +0200, Norman Uittenbogaart
<norm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello Stevan,
> 
> Results are way better at the moment, thank you!
> 
> nor...@*.nl:
>                 TP True Positives:                   774
>                 TN True Negatives:                  2109
>                 FP False Positives:                    3
>                 FN False Negatives:                  290
>                 SC Spam Corpusfed:                     0
>                 NC Nonspam Corpusfed:                  0
>                 TL Training Left:                    388
>                 SHR Spam Hit Rate                 72.74%
>                 HSR Ham Strike Rate:               0.14%
>                 PPV Positive predictive value:    99.61%
>                 OCA Overall Accuracy:             90.77%
> 
Well... OSB is way, way better then WORD or just CHAIN. Anyway... I see
you are still in the training phase (388 trainings left). After that value
is down to zero you will see again a increase of accuracy.


-- 
Kind Regards from Switzerland,

Stevan Bajić


> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Norman Uittenbogaart <nor...@tbu.nl>
> wrote:
>> Hello Stevan put the new config in hope it helps, thanks ! :)
>> I'm using shared,managed for several reasons, it is in front of another
>> spam
>> filter so lots of spam isn't coming through that I can train, now I can
>> also
>> train those mails.
>> I have users who don't understand forwarding email for spam training
and
>> working with quarantines.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:39:13 +0200
>>> Norman Uittenbogaart <nor...@tbu.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Sounds great thanks !
>>> >
>>> I attached your dspam.conf that you sent me with some changes. The
main
>>> change is that I switched the tokenizer to OSB and added a bunch of
>>> IgnoreHeader lines. And I changed the PurgeXXXX lines since you are
>>> probably
>>> purging with the help of the SQL purge script and the purge days are
>>> specified there and not in dspam.conf.
>>>
>>> You probably should empty the old tokens form your DSPAM installation
by
>>> running, after you have exchanged your old dspam.conf with the new
one:
>>> TRUNCATE `dspam_signature_data`;
>>> TRUNCATE `dspam_stats`;
>>> TRUNCATE `dspam_token_data`;
>>>
>>> You wrote that you use "shared,managed" for your user. Might I ask
why?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind Regards from Switzerland,
>>>
>>> Stevan Bajić
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I am currently out of office working on a project. As soon as I
get
>>> > > home I
>>> > > will quickly look over your dspam.conf and send you a bunch of
>>> > > suggestions.
>>> > > Okay?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Kind Regards from Switzerland,
>>> > >
>>> > > Stevan Bajić
>>> > >
>>> > >  On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:15:50 +0200, Norman Uittenbogaart <
>>> > > norm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Ok thats not a big problem as this is not really working out.....
>>> > > Which one should I use ?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hallo Norman,
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> getting higher accuracy would require to start from the beginning
>>> > >> since
>>> > >> the tokenizer you use is not that intelligent and using anything
>>> > >> other more
>>> > >> intelligent would require you to start from the beginning with
the
>>> > >> learning.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Kind Regards from Switzerland,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Stevan Bajić
>>> > >>
>>> > >>   On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:18:37 +0200, Norman Uittenbogaart <
>>> > >> norm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>  Hi Stevan,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Any suggestions to getting the accuracy up would be great !
>>> > >> My user is shared,managed in the groups file for the domains used
>>> > >> now..
>>> > >>
>>> > >> nor...@t*.nl:
>>> > >>                 TP True Positives:                   856
>>> > >>                 TN True Negatives:                  6650
>>> > >>                 FP False Positives:                    6
>>> > >>                 FN False Negatives:                 2097
>>> > >>                 SC Spam Corpusfed:                     0
>>> > >>                 NC Nonspam Corpusfed:                  0
>>> > >>                 TL Training Left:                      0
>>> > >>                 SHR Spam Hit Rate                 28.99%
>>> > >>                 HSR Ham Strike Rate:               0.09%
>>> > >>                 PPV Positive predictive value:    99.30%
>>> > >>                 OCA Overall Accuracy:             78.11%
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>  On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>  Hallo Norman,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> you asked "what is wrong". Right? Nothing is wrong with your
DSPAM
>>> > >>> installation. There are things you could do better but nothing
is
>>> > >>> really,
>>> > >>> really wrong.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Could you post the output of "dspam_stats -H ".
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> --
>>> > >>> Kind Regards from Switzerland,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Stevan Bajić
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:51:30 +0200, Norman Uittenbogaart <
>>> > >>> norm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Hello Stevan,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Herewith enclosed my config.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Kind regards,
>>> > >>> Norman
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Hello,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> the statistic alone is not enough information for telling why
>>> > >>>> your
>>> > >>>> accuracy is down. You need to post your dspam.conf.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> Kind Regards from Switzerland,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Stevan Bajić
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:29:06 +0200, Norman Uittenbogaart <
>>> > >>>> norm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I have been running and training dspam for while now, but it is
>>> > >>>> not
>>> > >>>> at
>>> > >>>> all effective at the moment.
>>> > >>>> What could be wrong ?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>     SPAM messages Good messages  Since last reset 2083 missed 6
>>> > >>>> missed  856
>>> > >>>> caught 6558 delivered  29.126% caught 0.091% missed  Total
>>> > >>>> processed by
>>> > >>>> filter 2097 missed 6 missed  856 caught 6559 delivered  From
>>> > >>>> corpus
>>> > >>>> 0
>>> > >>>> fed 0 fed
>>> > >>>>   Metric   Calculated as  Overall accuracy (since last reset)
>>> > >>>> *78.017%* (SPAM
>>> > >>>> messages caught + Good messages delivered) / Total number of
>>> > >>>> messages  Spam
>>> > >>>> identification (since last reset) *29.126%* (Spam catch rate
>>> > >>>> only)
>>> > >>>>  Spam
>>> > >>>> ratio (of total processed) *31.025%* Total SPAM messages (both
>>> > >>>> caught &
>>> > >>>> missed) / Total number of message
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
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>>> > >
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>>> > >
>>>
>>>
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