Gary,

Thanks for the in-depth reply to my question.
This was a great help. Also the others that replies as well were helpful too.

I was intending to look at a mobile radio for the first radio then that would 
get me onto the D-Star system.
I would then wait and see whether Kenwood brings out a radio.

I think with your reply I may even wait a bit longer before I make a purchase. 
I will look at what's available second hand (cheaply) to try it out and get my 
feet wet.
I can't see the point in buying a dual-bander if only one side can be used with 
D-Star.
So then from what you are saying it is not a true dual-bander in the since that 
it can't listen to both bands at the same time, well on Digital anyway.
It can listen to Digital on one band, analogue on the other?

I will now fully take the information digest it and decide what to do next.

In our area they are going to install a 70cm D-Star system then from what I 
believe a 2mtr and then 23cm

Thanks

Kevin, ZL1KFM.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Pearce KN4AQ 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New to D-Star - Which is the Best Radio





  At 06:36 AM 6/15/2009, Kevin wrote:
  >Hi All,
  >New to this group and I am interested in getting into the D-Star family.
  >Currently I do not have any D-Star equipment but hopefully this should 
  >change soon.
  >
  >The reason for this message is to find out what would be the best radio to 
  >get, that would be suitable for some time...?

  Hi, Kevin,

  Some questions back at you...

  Are you looking for mobile/base, or handheld? Or both!

  Do you want a two-bands-at-once radio, or would a single display, dual-band 
  radio do the job (and there are a few mono-banders out there)?

  These questions are generic - they don't have anything to do with D-STAR. 
  But there are now some issues that do relate to D-STAR, in that ICOM's 
  newer radios implement D-STAR better than some of the early ones. I'll 
  explain and hit the high spots of the current radios.

  The IC-2820 is currently the top of the line mobile. Dual-band, 
  dual-display so you can run two bands at once (but only one of them can be 
  D-STAR). It gets high marks as a general radio, though I've seen better 
  intermod performance (Standard 5900, Yaesu 8900 do better). I find the 
  memory/bank system particularly useful.

  It has a large display that makes all the menu items and call sign entry 
  easier. However, that display lacks contrast, and it can be hard to read in 
  some lighting situations.

  The ID-880 is the new one-band-at-a-time dual-band mobile. It replaces the 
  ID-800, ICOM's first dual-band D-STAR mobile, and improves on several 
  D-STAR related programming issues. The 880 has lots more memories (several 
  kinds of memories) that are useful in D-STAR operation. The older ID-800 
  works fine - it's just clumsy to use (and the 880 is still clumsy compared 
  to the 2820 because the display can't show as much). You might find a 
  bargain on an 800.

  On the handheld side, the IC-92 is the top - another two-at-once 
  dual-bander, and an overall good handheld. It improved a large handful of 
  features over it's predecessor, the IC-91 (I compare them in a QST review, 
  available as a PDF on my web site: www.ARVideoNews.com in the OtherStuff 
  section). The 91 became the bargain D-STAR dual-band radio, and it's now 
  on clearance, so might be even cheaper until it's gone.

  The new IC-80 is a one-band-at-a-time dual band HT. I haven't used one yet, 
  but I hear mostly good things except for the little speaker. Priced higher 
  than the 91, lower than the 92.

  You're probably just getting the idea that you have to program call signs 
  into menus on D-STAR radios to make them work thru repeaters (see the 
  videos on my web site above). It's not hard, but there is a learning curve 
  that has frustrated some hams. The 80 and 880 have new programming that was 
  intended to make that a little easier, but it "broke" a new, non-ICOM 
  function on the repeater network that requires a work-around to fix. Again, 
  nothing difficult once you know what to do. There are discussions about 
  that in the archives of this list, and the other radio-specific Yahoo groups.

  73,
  Gary KN4AQ

  ARVN: Amateur Radio//Video News
  Gary Pearce KN4AQ
  508 Spencer Crest Ct.
  Cary, NC 27513
  <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
  919-380-9944
  www.ARVideoNews.com 

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