John,

Don’t programs like D-RATS send data in DD mode from laptops and other
devices through the data cable of my IC-80AD when I’m not sending voice?

 

Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964  

On 6/25/2010 11:56 AM, john_ke5c wrote: 

  

a.k.a. wish list; I suppose this would reduce the attractivene$$ of the
ID-1, but what if Icom had created a "9600 baud data mode" with a dd (two
lower case D's) mode as well as the DV and DD modes for the vhf/uhf rigs? We
would call this the "not as slow data mode", and the radio display would
work as a simple display screen for a really dumb terminal. Either one
module in a stack would be dedicated to this mode, or the dd packet would be
identifiable so that radios in the DV mode would not try to decode the
audio. Error correction would have been included, so the actual rate would
be less than 9600, but still 3 or 4X the current low speed rate, and the
radios would be useful for more than they are now. Probably just another
Friday PM daydream. CQ FD! 73--John

 


PA3YBR has already run DD over the 4800 signal on D-STAR. To tell D-STAR you
are using DD format (Ethernet Frames) rather than DV (Voice) format is only
1 flag bit in the header.  Fred says this does not harm DV communications on
the same frequency (though you can only have 1 signal at a time).  The
problem is the RP2C repeater controller has expectations on whether an
attached module is DV or DD and likely Icom G2 software has the issue as
well.

With the advancement of alternative repeater/controller/gateway chains using
node adapters <http://enicomms.com/> , this mode is well within reach
(though out of spec).  Build up a G4ULF repeater
<http://g4ulf.blogspot.com/2010/02/release-plans.html>  or DVAR Hot Spot
<http://w9arp.com/hotspot/>  (I have done this - it was relatively simple
http://k7ve. <http://k7ve.org/blog/2010/06/nw7dr-the-d-star-repeater/>
org/blog/2010/06/nw7dr-the-d-star-repeater/), work with G4ULF and KB9KHM to
support both repeating of these data streams and to break them out to the
/dev/tap et voilà!  Then for user radios, until there is an integrated
solution from a manufacturer, one would just need to use node adapters with
an appropriate driver that looks like an Ethernet device (very slowly).

Remember though, that you will need to have strong signals or bit errors
will get you on these packets.

-- 

John D. Hays
Amateur Radio Station K7VE <http://k7ve.org> 
PO Box 1223
Edmonds, WA 98020-1223

VOIP/SIP: [email protected]
Phone: 206-801-0820
801-790-0950

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