> PA3YBR has already run DD over the 4800 signal on D-STAR. To tell D-STAR 
> you are using DD format (Ethernet Frames) rather than DV (Voice) format 
> is only 1 flag bit in the header.  Fred says this does not harm DV 
> communications on the same frequency (though you can only have 1 signal 
> at a time).  The problem is the RP2C repeater controller has 
> expectations on whether an attached module is DV or DD and likely Icom 
> G2 software has the issue as well.
> 
> With the advancement of alternative repeater/controller/gateway chains 
> using node adapters <http://enicomms.com/>, this mode is well within 
> reach (though out of spec).  Build up a G4ULF repeater 
> <http://g4ulf.blogspot.com/2010/02/release-plans.html> or DVAR Hot Spot 
> <http://w9arp.com/hotspot/> (I have done this - it was relatively simple 
> http://k7ve.org/blog/2010/06/nw7dr-the-d-star-repeater/), work with 
> G4ULF and KB9KHM to support both repeating of these data streams and to 
> break them out to the /dev/tap /et voilĂ /!  Then for user radios, until 
> there is an integrated solution from a manufacturer, one would just need 
> to use node adapters with an appropriate driver that looks like an 
> Ethernet device (very slowly).

If G4ULF and KB9HKM supported this mode; if AA4RC modified his reflectors to 
create a "data mode" reflector; and if the node-adapter folks would add such a 
data mode (serial in/out at 4800 bps), you could do this with non-DStar radios 
over much of the existing network infrastructure.  AMBE is not needed for this 
mode. Interesting to speculate.  73!

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