Peter, Hmmm. Not a bad idea, but I'm not so sure how well it would work. Remember, at the time that US Phone privileges started at 14.200, the 14.1 - 14.2 part of the band was filled with DX Phone. Now, while a lot of the region below 14.150 still has DX Phone, you're also finding more and more digital modes in the same area.
More importantly, moving the unofficial calling frequencies won't solve the fundamental problem involved. Wherever the DX station listening "up" transmits, on any band, you will always have the combined problems of: 1. The DX'er who accidently forgets to put his rig in split and transmits on top of the DX 2. The lid who deliberately neglects to put his rig in split and transmits on top of the DX 3. The alleged DX'er who claims that they can't work split... sometimes true, sometimes not 4. The operator (sometimes DX'er, sometimes not) who hears the DX calling, but doesn't hear or doesn't understand "listening up" who calls on the DX's frequency 5. The frequency cops, most of whom mean well, who transmit on top of the DX to try and tell the aforementioned ops that they're QRM'ing the DX... and in the process, QRM the DX 6. The net or alleged net or sked or alleged sked that "always" operates on or around this frequency and time, thus giving them hypothetical ownership of the frequency range, who either demand that the DX move, the pile-up move, or who blunder on with their QSO anyway 7. The usually innocent QSO that suddenly gets QRM from the DX and/or pileup due to propagation shift, who rather than move (if they can) try to blunder on, either not knowing or not caring that they're now QRM'ing the DX & pileup back I can go on, and I'm sure someone will add a few, but you get the point. Some of this can be solved by better operators... and better operators happen when those of us who know them try to teach them or show them better. Some of this is just, well, bad luck. And some of this is caused by that extremely small percentage of lids (and even smaller percentage of those who make regular lids look good) who for their own reasons of ego, perceived slights, general mean streaks, sadism, or mental illness (diagnosed or otherwise) enjoy making life miserable for the rest of us. 73 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter W2IRT Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Question At 10:01 03/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >What is the solution to the qrm on the DX frequency? Well, if >someone doesn't know the DX is woking split, or by accident is on >the wrong VFO, or whatever, it would be no problem if ppeople had >the smallest amount of self control. If the offending station is >calling with proper timing, when the Dx says QRZ, or is otherwise >ready for a call, calling on the DX transmit frequency is of no >consequence other than a waste of time for the caller. If I recall, 14195 became the DX frequency because it was a place where DX stations could TX but that Americans could not (US privileges started at 14200 for the longest time). Maybe it's time to revive that tradition and make 14145 the new default DX frequency on 20 SSB. It could have the added advantage of EU/JA pileups down 5 to 15 and stateside callers up 10-20 or something like that. The advice I'd give to anyone going to a top-10 entity and operating SSB would be to not use half the band and once in a while mention where you're listening. That means concentrating the pile between two hard limits ("listening 5 to 20 up") -- and staying within those limits. That in turn means you need an operator on the DXpedition who can run a pileup that's very intense and concentrated. Most of the Peter1 guys were great, but a couple of their 40m CW guys would just keep going up up up up up. 30 kHz for a CW pileup is nuts, especially when you're not announcing where you're listening and just saying UP. - Peter W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [email protected] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [email protected] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
