Good comments Jose,

I have no sour grapes. I didn't figure on working them but had fun trying. I made a couple of operating errors which may have cost me a chance but I learnt in the progress and I did get to work the slim on 30m hi hi



Mark N1UK G3ZZM

----- Original Message ----- From: "N4BAA - Jose Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 17 May, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] BS7H QSO Stats


Mark,

I have to agree and am very sure you are correct regarding how they figured the zones. Even so, I think the percentage may be smaller than we think in the grand scheme of things. Not sure we will ever know.

In my opinion, propagation was better than many thought it would be actually. I have a 42 foot boom 5L 20M yagi at 75 feet and BS7H was in every morning here in Extreme Eastern Va. Some mornings they were 10 over S9, some mornings they were only S4, but still workable.

Unfortunately, there was an overwhelming desire for this DXPedition to significantly "work down" the "need" for this entity, when in fact that just wasn't realistic given the amount of time they were there and the physical restrictions that prohibit elaborate antenna systems. 2L yagi some 12 feet off the water from 1/2 way around the world is a pretty good hurdle to overcome

So, the reality of this whole DXPedition was that it was undertaken to "break the ice" of this desolate location "politically" for possible future operations...and to give some amateurs the "opportunity" to work the rarest DXCC entity currently on the list.

I too, know those with HUGE antenna systems, stacked arrays, and super legal amps who had monumental problems working them. I also know those, even here locally, that worked them on both modes withing 10 minutes. Additionally, one station here in Va Bch actually worked them barefoot with his wide spaced 3 element yagi at 100 feet. Yes! He happened to be RIGHT THERE when they called CQ the first time...but by golly he is in the log! Amazing actually.

My point here is..they surely did not help themselves by listening up in excess of 70 Khz...and NOT following their laid out band plans for working NA...or answering stations who called out of turn or even from the WRONG CONTINENT....but that will always be a fact of this hobby for ever more...unfortunately...

Finally, if you heard something you did not like...i/e stations insistent on announcing LID...or what ever.....Don't fall victim to that trap....and we should all work on developing OPERATOR SKILLS!.....

You will NEVER BEAT a station/operator with a Big Antenna System AND a "Talent Package"!!! <smiling> Given the choice, I will take the "Talent package" (operating skill) over big antenna any day! For those who have both...You are the minority. For those who DO NOT have both Operator Skill and huge antenna systems...you DO have a say so about obtaining 50% of those two...and 50% will give you far better chance at bagging that rare one the next time than NOT having it!

For those who were successful with BS7H!! CONGRATS!!!!!!

....for those who did not get in their log.....

Be ready next time...it won't be any easier!


73
Jose - N4BAA



Mark Robinson wrote:
quote BS7H impossible from the east coast? Zone 3 only had 600 more QSO's
than zone 4 and zone 5, which were equal end  quote


How did they figure the US zones - by call sign which isn't too accurate now. My friend a W4 worked BS7H but he lives in 9 land - did his contact count as a 4 land contact - I am sure that it did. I wonder how many Zone 5 and Zone 4 calls are resident in Zone 3?

A friend of mine who runs a big contest station thought that he would be in and out but spent 16 hours before he worked BS7H and he has stacked mono banders for 20m.

There was no JA wall as far as I was concerned just very limited propagation times and too many stations trying to call in the very limited open band times.



Mark N1UK G3ZZM




----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Zimmerman N3OX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 17 May, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] BS7H QSO Stats


This throws a lot of whining into sharp perspective.

They didn't work the U.S. enough?  We're second only to JA.

Totally impenetrable JA wall?  JA was only 900 hams ahead of the U.S.
total.  Granted they had 3x the QSO's but who around here had a real
shot on, say, 40m.

BS7H impossible from the east coast?  Zone 3 only had 600 more QSO's
than zone 4 and zone 5, which were equal.

21kqso to Asia, 16kqso to EU, 7kqso to NA... sounds like they did a
good job working the propagation...

Lots of selfish hams stealing away the chance for people to get a QSO
from BS7H by working them over and over again?  I don't think so.

2.5 times  as many people got only one QSO as who managed to get two.
2 times as many people managed to get 2 QSO's as got 3.  This includes
*all* regions.

Whoever got 24... wow.

73,
Dan


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