George,

I think that I can give you a bit more info on what we
are seeing.. I still had a copy of your own mdb file from
Jan 2004 that you had sent to me .. I imported that into
DXbase2005 and did all the normal stuff we have to do -
then I went into the Award DXCC area and checkmarked
Mixed  and Exclude Past Submissions -- and Radio buttoned
QSO Log and Cards only ... Remembering that this is your
logbook from 1 years ago -- I got 24 QSO's selected ...

Then I went back into the Award DXCC area again and this time
Radio buttoned Both .... I got 26 QSO's this time ...

I did a screen capture of both Previews of the DXCC form and
what I saw as the "extra" 2 qso's picked up when I did the Both --
were correct .. then I looked for any QSO that was there when
I did Card only - BUT, a different Callsign might have been
selected when I did Both -- YEP!!  When I did Cards only -- the
"selection logic that Jack uses" picked  CT9L  USB Mode -- when
I did the Both -- the "selection logic" picked   CT3EE  CW Mode ..

So, from what I am seeing - when comparing both outputs -- the
answer to your question George would have to be:

No, not necessarily are you going to see the
SAME  Callsign/QSO used in the DXCC Award Reports..

BUT, YES - the SAME entity/country will be shown .. just not
necessarily "using" the same QSL method listing (Card versus
LoTW QSO)..

I hope that this helps George!

73 Joe wa6axe


George Harlem W1EBI wrote:
> OK, I'll accept that "Both" for the DXCC award list is not the same as
> the "Both" in the CFM column.  But I still don't understand, if what you
> say is correct (and it almost always is...), why some records that are
> in the CFM column as "Card", meaning I have only a card QSL, not LoTW,
> do NOT appear when I do a "Both" list.  If there is a card, should that
> QSO not appear on the list when run as "Card" as well as "Both"?
> 
> George W1EBI
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Glockner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 6:17 PM
> To: George Harlem W1EBI
> Cc: 'DXbase reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Another flaw?
> 
> George,
> 
> When I do a DXCC Award output -- I can see that the meaning
> of BOTH  is "not" the CFM colmn's Both -- but indicates
> that you are asking to use both the Card and also the LoTW ..
> NOT  the Both from the Confirmed column of our logbook..
> 
> When I do a card only MIXED - I get a count of 274 -- when
> I do a Both -- I get 275 -- the extra ONE QSO is the YV0D
> (which right now is only confirmed via LoTW) ..
> 
> Hope that this helps!
> 
> 73
> 
> Joe wa6axe
> 
> George Harlem W1EBI wrote:
> 
>>While we're on the subject of DXbase oddities, here's another:
>>
>>I ran a DXCC award submission list with a check in "Select QSO's from
>>QSO log--Cards only" plus "Exclude past submissions".  The list of
>>confirmed contacts included those not previously submitted which I
> 
> have
> 
>>recorded as "Card" in the "CFM" column.  But it also contained some
>>contacts which were recorded as "Both".  Then I ran a list after
>>checking "QSO log--Both", expecting to see contacts that I had
> 
> recorded
> 
>>as having QSL'd via both card and LoTW.  I got the expected larger
> 
> list,
> 
>>but some contacts recorded as "Both" were NOT on the new list, and the
>>"Both" list contains unsubmitted contacts that are recorded as "LoTW"
>>only but not "Both".  It looks as if choosing the "Both" selection
> 
> lists
> 
>>contacts that are "Card" or "LoTW", but definitely not "Both"!
>>
>>Sorry if this has been visited before on the reflector.  I vaguely
>>recall a related thread shortly after LoTW went live.  Maybe the
> 
> trouble
> 
>>is the operator--please advise.
>>
>>George W1EBI
>>
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