DXCC does not offer a 'Band-Mode' award. The cards that I thought should have been selected actually would not have been needed to apply to any award DXCC offers. When they announced the DX Challenge I figured that was the Band-Mode award I had wished for, but no it's not that at all. I can't speak to your exact DXCC submission, but in my case the RTTY Q's it did not select turned out not to be an 'adder' to any of the awards. This did surprise me, but a careful reading of the rules seems to me to confirm that DXBase2006 is actually doing the right submissions, at least in my case. I suspect in the selection process behind the scenes, when you have all 3 modes checked in the selection screen, that RTTY is not considered until CW and Phone are fully processed, thus RTTY is the one which seems to get the 'short end' of the stick. Unless DXBase provided a way to prioritize based upon mode, say you could tell it to consider RTTY first, then Phone, then CW as an example, this 'anomaly' is going to happen.
Of course I could be proven wrong..won't be the first or last time. Ron, N5IN Dave Blake wrote: > I have been living with this anomaly since we went from DOS versions > to Windows. I tried to explain it once to Jack an Dayton years ago > and wasn't able to convince him there was a problem. I have DXCC > on 9 bands and am not working on 6 meters for band 10. My goal > is to work as many countries on each band, mode, CW, SSB and RTTY > as I can. Therefore with each submission I will have cards for most > bands and all 3 mode. I check all bands and mode I have cards for > and there has always been a few RTTY contacts that it doesn't pick > up. I do a couple of runs with DXB and with the help of some > glue, cut and paste I come up with a complete form that I Xerox. > > The good news is thanks to the law of diminishing returns I have > fewer and fewer cards to submit so there is less and less doctoring > to be done these days. > > 73 and DX > Dave -N4DB- > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Glockner" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "George Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] dxcc worksheet? > > >> George et al, >> >> After reviewing Fred's mdb here at my QTH, it is apparent >> that exactly what you said George - is happening ... the >> 3 QSO's that Fred doesn't see come up on the worksheet >> (all RTTY QSO's) are not being used - because of the >> "checkmarking of PHONE" -- the selection process that >> I guess that Jack uses - HAS SELECTED a PHONE QSO for >> each of the 3 RTTY QSO's that Fred said was missing.. >> >> Going back thru his mdb file - if I DO NOT checkmark >> PHONE -- ALL 3 of his RTTY QSO's are in fact USED in >> the worksheet -- but if I DO checkmark PHONE -- then >> Jack's selection process (for that particular band that >> the RTTY QSO's were on) -- IS SELECTING a PHONE QSO for >> that particular BAND. >> >> So, from what I can see here with Fred's mdb file - >> nothing is wrong with Jack's Logic in the DXCC Award >> module --- just how "we" think that it shud be outputting >> the worksheet - is not what shud be happening... >> >> I am surely open for any other opinions. >> >> 73 Joe wa6axe >> >> George Johnson wrote: >> >>> Ron et al, >>> This topic does get a very detailed and needs examples like yours to >>> resolve questions. I am also preparing a complex submission (cards >>> and LoTW) with DXBase 2006. >>> >>> Regarding your last question about the actual DXCC credit process, >>> yes, the 20 phone selection would make a 40 phone selection unneeded >>> for phone. And the 40 cw selection would have rendered the 40 phone >>> selection unneeded for the 40m band. The same logic applies to >>> ignoring the 30m RTTY if 30m cw had been selected for the 30m band etc. >>> >>> In past DXBase versions, I have had occasional problems with RTTY >>> selection when I tried these large "global" lists. I am presently >>> examining whether this is an issue with DXBase 2006. I previously >>> did what Fred outlined in his post the just ran a separate RTTY list >>> which always surfaced the "missing" cards. >>> >>> Jack & Co. did work on the DXCC award logic as part of DXBase 2006 >>> and it might be possible that my prior experience with RTTY (as well >>> as Fred, K1ACL) may have been resolved in with the 2006 release. I >>> don't know yet. >>> >>> But your observation on the selection for the global process >>> >>> >>> >>> At 01:01 PM 5/27/2005, Ron Stordahl wrote: >>> >>>> Fred et al: >>>> >>>> I am currently working on a rather large DXCC submission. I worked >>>> FT5XO Kerguelen on 11 band modes in their recent DXPedition and >>>> received the paper cards for all my Q's.. Prior to this I did not >>>> have Kerguelen in my log. >>>> >>>> On the DXCC Award Submission window in DXBase2006 I have selected >>>> everything (Mixed, Phone CW, RTTY, Digital and all bands except 6 >>>> and 2 meters.). For Select Records From I have selected QSO log and >>>> Cards Only. I have not selected SAT, QRP, YL, User-1 nor User-2. My >>>> additional selections are Exclude Past Submission, Select only >>>> Valid for Field Check and Combine RTTY and Digital. I have also >>>> selected a date of 19950101 since I am preparing this submission >>>> for Field Checking. >>>> >>>> Doing so I find that these two Q's for which I have cards: FT5XO on >>>> 40 phone and 30 RTTY are not selected. The rest of FT5XO Q's are >>>> selected. I would have never have noticed this except I am rather >>>> proud of getting country number 320 with 11 band modes so I was >>>> rather alert to this one! And it's also fresh in my mind. >>>> >>>> I have checked the log for these two Q's and they are all shown >>>> with the correct dates (March 2005), and in other respects do not >>>> differ from the selected ones except for the band and mode of course. >>>> >>>> It seems to me that they should have been selected, however reading >>>> the ARRL DXCC rules it is clear that the rules are unclear! >>>> >>>> If someone who really understands the DXCC rules can comment..is it >>>> possible that since 20 phone and 40 cw were selected that 40 phone >>>> would not be of any DXCC value? Similarly since 40 rtty and 30 cw >>>> were selected would 30 rtty not be of any DXCC value? That might >>>> explain it, otherwise I am in the dark as to why these two were not >>>> selected. >>>> >>>> Ron, N5IN >>>> >>>> >>>> Alfred LaVallee wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here is my 2 cents worth on the same problem. I've been sitting >>>>> on the >>>>> sidelines, but have had the same problem since I started using DXBase >>>>> several versions ago. It is rather difficult to explain details >>>>> without >>>>> being longwinded, but here goes. >>>>> From the dropdown menu: output, awards, DXCC; I check ALL modes & >>>>> all bands >>>>> desired, QSO log & cards only, exclude past submissions & combine >>>>> RTTY & >>>>> Digital. I believe that SHOULD give me my complete submission. I >>>>> found no >>>>> errors, but did have some QSLs that were not selected for >>>>> submission. There >>>>> were 3 RTTY QSO missing from the report (calls or prefixes don't >>>>> matter). >>>>> Using the summary window it was easy to verify that each was >>>>> applied to the >>>>> right prefix, confirmed, and none were already credited for DXCC. >>>>> >>>>> After accepting that report (marking all QSOs credited) the same >>>>> procedure >>>>> produced no new QSOs to be credited. >>>>> Starting over again; from the dropdown menu: output, awards, DXCC; I >>>>> unchecked all bands and modes EXCEPT RTTY and this produces the >>>>> QSOs that >>>>> were originally omitted. I now have two reports to combine for one >>>>> submission. >>>>> >>>>> Had I not keep good records (DXbase of course) and put the QSLs >>>>> aside, I >>>>> would not have even known they were omitted. It has been >>>>> complained about >>>>> before by others, but seems to have just been shrugged off as >>>>> operator >>>>> error. >>>>> >>>>> 73, Fred >>>>> K1ACL >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Johnson" >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "TOM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:02 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] dxcc worksheet? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Tom, >>>>>> It's a little hard to tell from your notes exactly what is or is >>>>>> not being >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> included. Maybe a specific callsign example would help. >>>>>> >>>>>> I use the DXCC function here and it seems OK in 2006. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the case you mention as QSLs you know should be listed but >>>>>> are not, a couple quick "reasons" come to mind: >>>>>> 1. The country (log column labeled prefix) of these "QSLs" has >>>>>> already been recognized by DXBase as being credited for DXCC. >>>>>> 2. The actual QSO you want does not indicate that a QSL has been >>>>>> received. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are several more possibilities as part of the selection >>>>>> logic etc but it sounds like you may have already addressed those. >>>>>> You can check item 1 above by running the report: Output / >>>>>> Standard Reports . Look in User Designed other DXCC Related >>>>>> list for the report dxcccredselect.rpt. If you run this report >>>>>> you will see everything DXBase >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "thinks" has been credited. >>>>>> Hope this helps but maybe a little more info from you could pin >>>>>> point the direction too. >>>>>> 73, George .. W1ZT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 07:17 PM 5/25/2005, TOM wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> IS anyone out there experiencing problems with the DXCC >>>>>>> Worksheet report for submission to ARRL as i am? i have spent >>>>>>> about 3 weeks off and on trying to get this report correct for >>>>>>> field checking and have had numerous >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> problems getting it right? I havn't seen many posts on it except >>>>>>> for multiple q's which i figured out, but my problem is it >>>>>>> listing q's already >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> credited and not listing ones that should be listed for >>>>>>> submission? I have >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> gotten it down 2 two qsls i need to submit and have listed on >>>>>>> report but for some reason Dxbase 2006 will not recognize them >>>>>>> not matter what i try checking or unchecking in the awards field >>>>>>> or select field? any help would >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> be appreciated here? one final note i have always done this by >>>>>>> long hand method up to know so this may be part of my problem >>>>>>> but don't have a clue how to correct it? 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