Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Loading External Content (Remote Scripting)

[Jordi - IlMaestro - Ministral]

One thing for sure: one foreign dude such as me can learn some english when
reading Raymond's posts.


Raymond Smith wrote:

> IE can't put Java in any "new" products as a result of the law suit they
> lost recently with Sun.  They can only support Java in existing products for
> 7 years.  Whistler (Windows X) and IE6 are Java clean.
>
> Sun recently launched a "plug-in" for Java with a rather "limp" marketing
> push.  I downloaded it and thought the hole affair was rather disappointing,
> certainly not a killer application to drive the masses to DL it.  It's
> called Java Web Start - Version 1.0, it's basically a "thin-client"
> (according to them, personally 18mb isn't very thin in the eyes of Joe
> Average) that uses the JVM it installs.  The DL is a little over 18 mb.
>
> You can launch Web Start remote of the browser.  It comes with 3 very
> uncompelling applications.  A note pad, "swing-set" demo and a checkerboard
> style war game (very, very simple - think somewhere between Atari and the
> first 8-bit Nintendo).  Like I said, it's not going to create any forest
> fires of desire.
>
> Additionally,...
>
> The W3C is working on "Web Forms" a new broader version of interface GUI
> objects (probably skinable) to allow developers to get away from the
> ugliness associated with form elements.  While this is nice.  The
> wonderboy's over at M$ have announced their own version (that will launch
> with Window X, IE6 and .NET later this year).  Unsurprisingly, M$'s will not
> comply with the W3C recommendation and IE6 will not support it.  Bugzilla
> will, sometime in the far future...
>
> I loath M$'s overall strategy, though in their greedy shoes most would
> probably deploy similar tactics; live well on earth today and burn in hell
> later for it.  But Sun and the "Wild Bunch" associated with the OMG
> consortium won't win the war with note pads and swing-set demos.  Meanwhile,
> M$ announces strategic alliances with e-bay (other coming soon, according to
> them) to integrate auctions into their messaging interface.  Sun gives us a
> stale, uncompelling, tic-tac-toe style war game.
>
> M$ has a horde of consumer marketing slime-balls (Proctor and Gamble Brand
> Guru's) that work wonders using Vulcan mind-meld tricks on your average
> techno-ludite.  Sun knows nerds and distributed computing, clearly the
> future of the web.  Will the Nerds prevail or will consumers line up like
> sheep behind the Judas ram of M$ marketing monkeys?
>
> Time will tell...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 1:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Loading External Content (Remote Scripting)
>
> > First of all I don't know where you guys heard of this 18 MB VM and no
> Java
> > support in IE. I personally hate Java as a client side language (and in
> > general too) and I also know from recent experience that you can't trust
> > people to allow java on their systems. So I agree there needs to be
> another
> > way I personally think that a hidden frame is the best way to go.
> >
> > 8an
> >
> >
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