Actually, the end of the world is near. DynAPI is to blame. Period. *s*
> I normally don't like to enter in such conversation, since I consider myself > a real newbie compared to most of you Javascript GODS in this lists, but .. > could you ALL cheer up a little? DYNAPI is not that much damage... > > However my project does also rely heavely on DYNAPI. I always use the latest > build, hoping nothing will break too much... and if it does I need to thank > all the folks like Doug Melvin to let everyone know about the new issues, > and help the developers to fix our favorite library. > > Just cheer up. The real end of the world is in a few billion years from now > :) > > > > Thomas > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Bart Bizon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Fwd: [Dynapi-Dev] Doug, READ LICENSE.TXT, PLEASE!!! > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 22:12:25 +0100 > > > > Sure it's good practise to check before you commit a stable release. > But it's up to the developer doing it. > He/she is not beeing payed for it. > And he is not bound by any requirements/warranties, that usually come with a > commercial product. > A LGPL product is not by any means a commercial product. > It's merely stated that it CAN be used commercially. > But without any guarantees. > > Sure, it sucks hairy monkey ass when something you would expect work, > doesn't. > But you are free to not use such code. > I for instance choose not to use DynAPI for this very reason. > > The company you work for commited to DynAPI probably because you said it was > great. > Now they think something else, but buddy, it's your own fault. > The developers of DynAPI don't work on your project team. > Don't make promises that you can't keep. > Don't make promises that you expect other people to keep, but you don't know > if they can. > And be polite. > Get's you a helluva lot farther. > > So now the only interesting question remaining, as I see it, is: > Who is more stupid? The developer committing an unstable release, or the > developer committing _to_ an unstable release (even if neither one knows > it's unstable). > > > A fix was checked in that does ont work on ALL systems. > > It was then release without checking. > > I don't give a fuck what you do with your own time. > > But I still don't think it's too much to ask for a cursory run through > the > > examples. > > This was obviously not done as this critical error (not on browser a on > > > platform b but globally) > > made it into the 'stable release'. > > > > What's done is done. > > Now the bug (and others) have been fixed, but people still can't download > a > > 'table release' > > Why is this? > > > > Once apon a time it was accepted in this group, that you would at least > make > > a basic test before comiiting code to CVS. > > We even created examples to be used for this testing. > > > > When did everyone take a vote to stop doing this? > > And why was I not invited? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "antti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Michael Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Doug Melvin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Doug, READ LICENSE.TXT, PLEASE!!! > > > > > > > Doug, > > > whatever you do, it's your decisions. Nobody can force you. > > > > > > > They are now questioning my salary. > > > > > > They should. period. > > > > > > Whenever you use anything that is GPL or LPGL (like dynapi) it means: > "NO > > > WARRANTY" > > > Do I have to write it red? > > > I repeat: whenever you use GPL or LPGL stuff you have no warranty. No > > rights > > > to complaing. Nil. Void. > > > Read the license. > > > You have the right not to use it. If you do, then it is assumed your > > > responsibility to assure it fits your needs. > > > > > > > > > You dont call something the "Latest Stable Release " > > > > if it does not work. > > > > > > > > You don't. period. > > > > > > Do you know what it means to test dynapi on all-browsers? It cant be > done. > > > Some minor change may cause problems on any other environment except > those > > > it was tested on. I guess the 'Latest Stable' was stable on some > > development > > > environments. > > > > > > > Is this so much to ask for? > > > > > > YES > > > > > > You can't ask if have not paid for it. It is too bad that with open > > > source-projects you can not pay either. If you have contributed > something > > to > > > dynapi, then, well you still can't ask anything. Nobody asked or forced > > you > > > to contribute. It (if) was your choice, and entitles of no special > > handling. > > > > > > If you want somebody to test dynapi builds, then if you really really > want > > > it, hire some student and pay him. It's the only way. > > > You cant ask others to do the things you want to use for your work (you > > get > > > paid), for free. It's not fair. > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Sorry if you dont like what I said. However if you remember some things > > from > > > my mail it will help in the future. > > > > > > Rule #1: Read the LICENSE.TXT always! If it says 'NO WARRANTY' think > about > > > what it may mean to you. > > > > > > If you salary is being questioned because you did not read the license > > > agreement of something you are using for the employer? Who's fault is > > that? > > > If somebody can't read? > > > > > > If you use 'no warranty' stuff (GPL/LGPL) then you have to ensure that > you > > > are using working branch. And you have to tell your employer that you > are > > > using GPL stuff. Not all employers allow that. If you did not inform > them > > > (about the use of GPL ed software), then it is trouble for you. > > > > > > sorry > > > Antti > > > http://www.case2000.com/R.O.L > > > rules of life > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dynapi-dev@lists.sourceforge.net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.mail-archive.com/dynapi-dev@lists.sourceforge.net/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.mail-archive.com/dynapi-dev@lists.sourceforge.net/ _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mail-archive.com/dynapi-dev@lists.sourceforge.net/
