I agree with Ed. As a practical matter, I'm inclined to view Dalvik (Google's Android VM based upon Java 5) as the only viable embedded Java VM going forward--even though saying so likely won't make me popular with a few other folk. That's not what I want, but it's what seems to be happening.
Regards, Dave 2008/12/15 Ed Merks <[email protected]> > Kevin, > > Not that it's entirely a relevant question, but will the embedded space > ever more forward again? At Eclipse we'd argue: if the community cared > enough, they'd produce a Foundation 1.2 for Java 5.0. It can't be that > hard, but I suppose Sun leaves the community in a straight jacket. This > seems an ideal approach for making Java go extinct in the embedded space. > Basing an important design decision around this terribly sad story, seems > terribly sad. And of course the target is likely to move by the time the > arrow comes close... > > You recall there was talk about cross compiling 5.0 code to 1.4? There is > a "secret flag" already, but I think that goes against the rules as well. > I'm not sure the purpose for such rules. It seems all very wrong... > > Regards, > Ed > > > Kevin McGuire wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm a little confused about what JDK level we said we'd use for e4 work. > > In the former e4-incubator mail list [1] we said, "We'll discuss at the > summit". In the summit notes I see lots of discussion [2] but no > conclusion. I was not in that session, so perhaps there was a conclusion > that I missed/was missed in the notes? > > In doing the recent CSS work I set the dependency as JDK1.5 because that's > what I saw in the following projects: > org.eclipse.e4.ui.services > org.eclipse.e4.ui.workbench > > Many would like 1.5 for various reasons (myself included), but as in the > email below, those in the embedded space would naturally like something more > like Foundation 1.1. > > We need a definitive answer to avoid costly reworking of code to a lower > JDK level. > > Regards, > Kevin > > [1] > http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00234.html > [2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Architectural_Foundations see "Summit Notes > for Java 5/supported platforms" > > ----- Forwarded by Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM on 12/15/2008 10:32 AM ----- > *"Gorkem Ercan" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>* > Sent by: [email protected] > > 12/15/2008 05:37 AM > Please respond to > E4 Project developer mailing list <[email protected]><[email protected]> > > To > "E4 Project developer mailing list" <[email protected]><[email protected]> > cc > > Subject > [e4-dev] The targets for CSS Engine > > > > > > > I have been trying to get the existing code working with the eRCP > runtime. The good news is after a few hours of hacking and commenting > I was able to get it working. I am now wondering what are the platform > targets for the CSS engine. We can possibly help with the existing > code base to complete it and make it compatible with CDC FP 1.1 > (better yet CLCD 1.1 ) also add eSWT and eJface support. Are those > things in the interest and target of the css related work? > -- > Gorkem > _______________________________________________ > e4-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > e4-dev mailing > [email protected]https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > e4-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/e4-dev > >
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