So port it, you C dude, you! :-P

Code in C, Code in C,
Code in C, Code in C
Java's just for sissies
Code in C

(to the tune of "Let it Be", for those who might not have got the reference;
it's also a reference to an old parody titled "Code in C" that can be found
via Google.)


Dave

2008/12/15 Schaefer, Doug <[email protected]>

>  The only thing I've wished for so far for Dalvik is that it run on
> architectures other than ARM.
>
> Doug.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *David Orme
> *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2008 12:45 PM
> *To:* E4 Project developer mailing list
> *Subject:* Re: [e4-dev] JDK level for e4 work?
>
> BTW, the only thing I've wished for so far in Android/Dalvik that isn't
> there is java.beans.  So I ported it from the Apache Harmony sources.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Orme
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Gorkem Ercan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I do not think there is/should be a single answer for the JDK level on
>> e4. I do not really know how to formulate it but the closer the work
>> to the RCP, it is more likely that we can use it in the embedded
>> space. If we need to really come up with a rule of thumb. I guess we
>> could formulate it with dependencies. Here is my quick dirty version
>> "if feature is mainly built on top of org.eclipse.swt,
>> org.eclipse.jface, org.eclipse.core.runtime, org.eclipse.ui,
>> org.eclipse.update.core only then consider using CDC FP 1.1"
>> --
>> Gorkem
>>
>>
>> 2008/12/15 Ed Merks <[email protected]>:
>>  > Kevin,
>> >
>> > Not that it's entirely a relevant question, but will the embedded space
>> ever
>> > more forward again?  At Eclipse we'd argue: if the community cared
>> enough,
>> > they'd produce a Foundation 1.2 for Java 5.0.  It can't be that hard,
>> but I
>> > suppose Sun leaves the community in a straight jacket.  This seems an
>> ideal
>> > approach for making Java go extinct in the embedded space.  Basing an
>> > important design decision around this terribly sad story, seems terribly
>> > sad.  And of course the target is likely to move by the time the arrow
>> comes
>> > close...
>> >
>> > You recall there was talk about cross compiling 5.0 code to 1.4?  There
>> is a
>> > "secret flag" already, but I think that goes against the rules as well.
>>  I'm
>> > not sure the purpose for such rules.  It seems all very wrong...
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ed
>> >
>> >
>> > Kevin McGuire wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm a little confused about what JDK level we said we'd use for e4 work.
>> >
>> > In the former e4-incubator mail list [1] we said, "We'll discuss at the
>> > summit".  In the summit notes I see lots of discussion [2] but no
>> > conclusion.  I was not in that session, so perhaps there was a
>> conclusion
>> > that I missed/was missed in the notes?
>> >
>> > In doing the recent CSS work I set the dependency as JDK1.5 because
>> that's
>> > what I saw in the following projects:
>> > org.eclipse.e4.ui.services
>> > org.eclipse.e4.ui.workbench
>> >
>> > Many would like 1.5 for various reasons (myself included), but as in the
>> > email below, those in the embedded space would naturally like something
>> more
>> > like Foundation 1.1.
>> >
>> > We need a definitive answer to avoid costly reworking of code to a lower
>> JDK
>> > level.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Kevin
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00234.html
>> > [2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Architectural_Foundations see "Summit
>> Notes
>> > for Java 5/supported platforms"
>> >
>> > ----- Forwarded by Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM on 12/15/2008 10:32 AM -----
>> > "Gorkem Ercan" <[email protected]>
>> > Sent by: [email protected]
>> >
>> > 12/15/2008 05:37 AM
>> >
>> > Please respond to
>> > E4 Project developer mailing list <[email protected]>
>> > To
>> > "E4 Project developer mailing list" <[email protected]>
>> > cc
>> > Subject
>> > [e4-dev] The targets for CSS Engine
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  I have been trying to get the existing code working with the eRCP
>> > runtime. The good news is after a few hours of hacking and commenting
>> > I was able to get it working. I am now wondering what are the platform
>> > targets for the CSS engine. We can possibly help with the existing
>> > code base to complete it and make it compatible with CDC FP 1.1
>> > (better yet CLCD 1.1 ) also add eSWT and eJface support. Are those
>> > things in the interest and target of the css related work?
>> > --
>> > Gorkem
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