The only thing I've wished for so far for Dalvik is that it run on
architectures other than ARM.
 
Doug.


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        From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Orme
        Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:45 PM
        To: E4 Project developer mailing list
        Subject: Re: [e4-dev] JDK level for e4 work?
        
        
        BTW, the only thing I've wished for so far in Android/Dalvik
that isn't there is java.beans.  So I ported it from the Apache Harmony
sources.
        
        
        Regards,
        
        Dave Orme
        
        
        On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Gorkem Ercan <[email protected]>
wrote:
        

                I do not think there is/should be a single answer for
the JDK level on
                e4. I do not really know how to formulate it but the
closer the work
                to the RCP, it is more likely that we can use it in the
embedded
                space. If we need to really come up with a rule of
thumb. I guess we
                could formulate it with dependencies. Here is my quick
dirty version
                "if feature is mainly built on top of org.eclipse.swt,
                org.eclipse.jface, org.eclipse.core.runtime,
org.eclipse.ui,
                org.eclipse.update.core only then consider using CDC FP
1.1"
                --
                Gorkem
                
                
                2008/12/15 Ed Merks <[email protected]>:
                
                > Kevin,
                >
                > Not that it's entirely a relevant question, but will
the embedded space ever
                > more forward again?  At Eclipse we'd argue: if the
community cared enough,
                > they'd produce a Foundation 1.2 for Java 5.0.  It
can't be that hard, but I
                > suppose Sun leaves the community in a straight jacket.
This seems an ideal
                > approach for making Java go extinct in the embedded
space.  Basing an
                > important design decision around this terribly sad
story, seems terribly
                > sad.  And of course the target is likely to move by
the time the arrow comes
                > close...
                >
                > You recall there was talk about cross compiling 5.0
code to 1.4?  There is a
                > "secret flag" already, but I think that goes against
the rules as well.  I'm
                > not sure the purpose for such rules.  It seems all
very wrong...
                >
                > Regards,
                > Ed
                >
                >
                > Kevin McGuire wrote:
                >
                > Hi all,
                >
                > I'm a little confused about what JDK level we said
we'd use for e4 work.
                >
                > In the former e4-incubator mail list [1] we said,
"We'll discuss at the
                > summit".  In the summit notes I see lots of discussion
[2] but no
                > conclusion.  I was not in that session, so perhaps
there was a conclusion
                > that I missed/was missed in the notes?
                >
                > In doing the recent CSS work I set the dependency as
JDK1.5 because that's
                > what I saw in the following projects:
                > org.eclipse.e4.ui.services
                > org.eclipse.e4.ui.workbench
                >
                > Many would like 1.5 for various reasons (myself
included), but as in the
                > email below, those in the embedded space would
naturally like something more
                > like Foundation 1.1.
                >
                > We need a definitive answer to avoid costly reworking
of code to a lower JDK
                > level.
                >
                > Regards,
                > Kevin
                >
                > [1]
                >
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00234.h
tml
                > [2]
http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Architectural_Foundations see "Summit Notes
                > for Java 5/supported platforms"
                >
                > ----- Forwarded by Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM on
12/15/2008 10:32 AM -----
                > "Gorkem Ercan" <[email protected]>
                > Sent by: [email protected]
                >
                > 12/15/2008 05:37 AM
                >
                > Please respond to
                > E4 Project developer mailing list <[email protected]>
                > To
                > "E4 Project developer mailing list"
<[email protected]>
                > cc
                > Subject
                > [e4-dev] The targets for CSS Engine
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >  I have been trying to get the existing code working
with the eRCP
                > runtime. The good news is after a few hours of hacking
and commenting
                > I was able to get it working. I am now wondering what
are the platform
                > targets for the CSS engine. We can possibly help with
the existing
                > code base to complete it and make it compatible with
CDC FP 1.1
                > (better yet CLCD 1.1 ) also add eSWT and eJface
support. Are those
                > things in the interest and target of the css related
work?
                > --
                > Gorkem
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