BTW, the only thing I've wished for so far in Android/Dalvik that isn't
there is java.beans.  So I ported it from the Apache Harmony sources.


Regards,

Dave Orme

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Gorkem Ercan <[email protected]> wrote:

> I do not think there is/should be a single answer for the JDK level on
> e4. I do not really know how to formulate it but the closer the work
> to the RCP, it is more likely that we can use it in the embedded
> space. If we need to really come up with a rule of thumb. I guess we
> could formulate it with dependencies. Here is my quick dirty version
> "if feature is mainly built on top of org.eclipse.swt,
> org.eclipse.jface, org.eclipse.core.runtime, org.eclipse.ui,
> org.eclipse.update.core only then consider using CDC FP 1.1"
> --
> Gorkem
>
>
> 2008/12/15 Ed Merks <[email protected]>:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Not that it's entirely a relevant question, but will the embedded space
> ever
> > more forward again?  At Eclipse we'd argue: if the community cared
> enough,
> > they'd produce a Foundation 1.2 for Java 5.0.  It can't be that hard, but
> I
> > suppose Sun leaves the community in a straight jacket.  This seems an
> ideal
> > approach for making Java go extinct in the embedded space.  Basing an
> > important design decision around this terribly sad story, seems terribly
> > sad.  And of course the target is likely to move by the time the arrow
> comes
> > close...
> >
> > You recall there was talk about cross compiling 5.0 code to 1.4?  There
> is a
> > "secret flag" already, but I think that goes against the rules as well.
>  I'm
> > not sure the purpose for such rules.  It seems all very wrong...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Kevin McGuire wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm a little confused about what JDK level we said we'd use for e4 work.
> >
> > In the former e4-incubator mail list [1] we said, "We'll discuss at the
> > summit".  In the summit notes I see lots of discussion [2] but no
> > conclusion.  I was not in that session, so perhaps there was a conclusion
> > that I missed/was missed in the notes?
> >
> > In doing the recent CSS work I set the dependency as JDK1.5 because
> that's
> > what I saw in the following projects:
> > org.eclipse.e4.ui.services
> > org.eclipse.e4.ui.workbench
> >
> > Many would like 1.5 for various reasons (myself included), but as in the
> > email below, those in the embedded space would naturally like something
> more
> > like Foundation 1.1.
> >
> > We need a definitive answer to avoid costly reworking of code to a lower
> JDK
> > level.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00234.html
> > [2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Architectural_Foundations see "Summit
> Notes
> > for Java 5/supported platforms"
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM on 12/15/2008 10:32 AM -----
> > "Gorkem Ercan" <[email protected]>
> > Sent by: [email protected]
> >
> > 12/15/2008 05:37 AM
> >
> > Please respond to
> > E4 Project developer mailing list <[email protected]>
> > To
> > "E4 Project developer mailing list" <[email protected]>
> > cc
> > Subject
> > [e4-dev] The targets for CSS Engine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  I have been trying to get the existing code working with the eRCP
> > runtime. The good news is after a few hours of hacking and commenting
> > I was able to get it working. I am now wondering what are the platform
> > targets for the CSS engine. We can possibly help with the existing
> > code base to complete it and make it compatible with CDC FP 1.1
> > (better yet CLCD 1.1 ) also add eSWT and eJface support. Are those
> > things in the interest and target of the css related work?
> > --
> > Gorkem
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