Mary:
        Okay, now we're getting to the nub of it.  I fully agree, women 
        have been treated like dirt for thousands of years, and have a 
        right to be mad as hell.  And some of us males will actually help 
        you change things.  (Other males are mad as hell about reverse 
        discrimination caused by Affirmative Action, and they have a right 
        to be since they aren't responsible for what went before.  There 
        are many victims of the patriarchal system.)

        My fear is that all the hostility (good God, look at it all on the 
        Internet!) will not make things better.  Be mad at the control 
        freaks; but don't be mad at men who are trying to help.  Whether 
        biological or cultural, women in fact do have peaceful qualities 
        lacking in many men.  Please don't flame this - the nature/nurture 
        argument is germaine and an important issue, but don't let it slow 
        down the effort to end the patriarchal system.  If those of us who 
        agree on ending oppression just fight amongst ourselves, the 
        oppressors win.

        People throughout government and industry and society yearn for 
        change.  How can we stop arguing about where nurturing, and 
        partnership, and other needed qualites came from and get them into 
        the system?  Many men are sincerely trying to change their views, 
        and aren't plotting to keep women down.  (Other men, not so.)  Can 
        you identify your allies and stop attacking so vehemently every 
        time they say the wrong thing?
                                                Al
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"We must love each other, or we must die."

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