> From:
> will bason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Do we really want to walk away from the numbers by saying, well, heck, upper
>>class women dominate lower class men? I don't know how many upper class women
>>you come across in a day, but I haven't seen one since, um, wow. A long time.
>>I do see women who have been beaten. I do see women living in fear that they
>>will be killed if they leave their abusers.
>Compared to people in the "third" world , We are all upper class (
>allthough i don't personaly like any of this language). Our over
>consumption is violence against not only these people but the whole of
>nature including ourcellves. To stop these violent patterns is going to
>take co-operation.
======
And let's not forget how some countries became "industrialized",
with its men and women commiting every type of mass violence on the
books against other peoples... So much violence that they
don't even count these people when talking about issues of
violence... they're conveniently erased from the map, there's
no accountability for what's been done and what still goes on.
Vera
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 12 15:08:09 1998
From: "us" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: people as groups - gender and violence
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:15:26 -0500
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Vera,
When I read your posting it made me think of all the war/genocide horrors
that are occurring everyday in places like Algeria, Bosnia, Nigeria, and
countless other places on this planet. Just the violence factor itself,
regardless of the gender of the contributors to this violence is yet another
worthy path to explore and discuss. Although I understand that the US has
limits on how much it can do in international affairs, I am still feel as if
we are standing still and
closing our eyes to the genocide happening in other places in the world...
Kimberly
-----Original Message-----
From: Vera Britto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: people as groups - gender and violence
>> From:
>> will bason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>>>Do we really want to walk away from the numbers by saying, well, heck,
upper
>>>class women dominate lower class men? I don't know how many upper class
women
>>>you come across in a day, but I haven't seen one since, um, wow. A long
time.
>>>I do see women who have been beaten. I do see women living in fear that
they
>>>will be killed if they leave their abusers.
>
>>Compared to people in the "third" world , We are all upper class (
>>allthough i don't personaly like any of this language). Our over
>>consumption is violence against not only these people but the whole of
>>nature including ourcellves. To stop these violent patterns is going to
>>take co-operation.
>
>======
>
>And let's not forget how some countries became "industrialized",
>with its men and women commiting every type of mass violence on the
>books against other peoples... So much violence that they
>don't even count these people when talking about issues of
>violence... they're conveniently erased from the map, there's
>no accountability for what's been done and what still goes on.
>
>Vera