I've seen a similar discussion in the NY Times about the WPA pictures of dust bowl families, and my reaction is the same -- does the program give a realistic idea of what goes on in the wild, or is it sugar-coated or otherwise distorted. If we know that species A eats species B, but only in situations which are almost impossible to capture on film, which is the greater distortion of reality? Ignoring it or faking it?

Even genuine films can give a distored image of what really goes on. Predator kills in the Serenghete? Almost all you see are the quick bites to the neck. It is rare to see a video of a predator attack on an antelope lying down and giving birth, although I understand that this is quite common. A lot of what goes on in nature is really really gruesome, and sometimes it is shown, but rarely.

Whether reality would realy sink in is of course another question. Most people seem to think that penguins are darling creatures, but when I see films like March of the Penguins I am horrified by the life they lead. Imagine standing for days over a hungry chick waiting for your mate to return -- not knowing whether the mate has been eaten by a seal. When do you give up and go to save yourself, leaving the chick to freeze? This seems like an unbearable choice, but do viewers of the film see it that way?

Bill Silvert

----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. McNeely" <[email protected]>
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Sent: quinta-feira, 23 de Setembro de 2010 14:51
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Naturefaking in media


Ok, I read the _Washington Post_ article. So what is new or revealed for the first time? The better programs, those from _National Geographic_, and the "Nature" series, are quite a lot above the ones on the cable channels like The Discovery Channel and on down. Sure the animals are captives, and are set up. Most of us know that. I guess some don't. The better programs do educate, however.

How are the animal shows different from the science shows (or even news clips) that report on some investigation or "discovery," and show a guy in a lab coat transferring materials with a pipette, or peering into a microscope. The photographer met the guy in his office and walked to the lab with him, where he posed, sometimes following directions, such as, "Can you look in the scope for me?" Next bit of the clip shows a video of something microscopic, maybe even the subject of the report, or related. The guy in the clip wasn't looking at it though, most likely. But the news recipient has learned a little about what science is doing, even if the images are no more than just bits of what the person might sometimes do in his work, if the verbal content is accurate. But no one wants to see a clip of a woman sitting at her desk reading a report or interpreting a statistical table.

Does a person know much who only gets his knowledge of nature from television? No. If he sticks to the better programs, he does learn something. But bottom line, television is entertainment, not a classroom, and not a laboratory, and most of us know that.

BTW, do you think most scientific animal behavior studies are done in the wild? Pretty naive if so. Even the original Bonobo studies that showed the sexual behavior were laboratory based studies of a captive colony. David McNeely

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WT

PS: It seems that some are not concerned; others think the practice is a major problem. I tend to think it depends a lot on whether or not the faking is misleading or truly educational, but I'd like to hear from Ecolog on this issue. It seems that there's a lot that doesn't meet the eye . . .

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David McNeely

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