Publish or Perish is in my experience not that common.
I've worked in some universities where publication was about as important
as, well, what color your shirt is.
On second thought, the color of your shirt was more important.
Universities are highly variable and some value publication very highly,
whereas others
could care less.  However, I personally believe that if you are getting a
phd then you should be doing
it in something you are interested in, in which case you will ultimately not
find publishing all that
stressful or difficult.  There are other options including Doctor of Arts,
and specialists degrees which
qualify you as teaching faculty or community college faculty where research
becomes virtually zero.

Malcolm

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:59 PM, David Moldoff <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree that this is a good topic. I recently graduated with a bachelors
> and this would really be interesting. My only notes are that when I was in
> my second year of college I was told that the life of a professor is
> "publish or perish". This motto has really turned me off of any type of
> professor career and my own experience working with professors has lead me
> to believe that many seem to only be interested in how others can help them
> instead of them being the ones to help others (especially students) . This
> is just my personal experiences dealing with professors though I'm sure it's
> not true for all.
>
> Thank you,
>
> David Moldoff
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 PM, malcolm McCallum <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> With all the graduate students and recently graduated on this listserv,
>> might it not be interesting to compare from personal experience working in
>> different academic sectors (e.g. research, regional, private, public,
>> SLAC),
>> government (e.g. US EPA, USGS, US FWS, NOAA, USACE, USFS, state vs fed),
>> not for profits (e.g. nature conservancy, zoos, museums), and
>> consultancies
>> (e.g. self-employed, tetra tech, &c.).
>>
>> I just think this might be a useful discussion and we seem to have people
>> from all groups!
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm L. McCallum
>> Managing Editor,
>> Herpetological Conservation and Biology
>>
>> "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" -
>> Allan
>> Nation
>>
>> 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea"  W.S. Gilbert
>> 1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
>>            and pollution.
>> 2000:  Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction
>>          MAY help restore populations.
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>
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>


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Malcolm L. McCallum
Managing Editor,
Herpetological Conservation and Biology

"Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - Allan
Nation

1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea"  W.S. Gilbert
1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
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