Back in the 1960s, when my Dad started junior college, freshman math... that everyone was required to take, was calculus I.
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Richard Shefferson <dorma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I normally do not contribute to ECOLOG (my apologies...), but thought I > should put my own 2 cents in on this one. I work in Japan at a major > university (although I am American and educated for the most part in the > US), and part of my job involves admissions into our international BS > program. We take applications from all over the world, and interview > students. As a part of this process, we generally quiz students in their > understanding of mathematics. What has shocked me in this regard is that > American students applying to our program, who include amazingly smart > students with top SAT scores, understand mathematics at a far lower level > than students from the entire rest of the planet (this is not an > exaggeration). European and Asian students applying, as high school > students, into out undergrad degree already understand calculus and > probability theory at levels I've only seen in American 3rd or 4th year > college math majors. I knew before moving to Japan that American students > were a little behind when it comes to STEM education, and in terms of the > basic sciences I think they are just a little behind. But in terms of > mathematics, they are at the bottom of cliff, and the rest of the world is > at the top of that cliff. As a personal aside, as an immigrant to the US, I > have also been strongly dismayed at the fact that the simplest math > questions always result in someone asking me for the answer. Simple > conversions from IMperial to metric, and so forth. > > So, to end my little rant, I would say that a discussion of whether to end > the teaching of calculus to ecology majors only reinforces my own belief > that American students are moving even further below the rest of the world > when it comes to STEM education. > > Sincerely, > > Rich Shefferson > > > New book on the Evolution of Senescence in the Tree of Life > http://tinyurl.com/SenescenceBook > > Sent from my NSA tracking device > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Neufeld, Howard S. < > neufel...@appstate.edu> wrote: > >> Dear All - >> >> >> >> I am participating in a study here at Appalachian State University about >> whether we should restructure the mathematics and statistics requirements >> for our biology/ecology majors. For example, should we require all majors >> to take an entire semester of calculus? >> >> >> >> I have written an explanation of why we are looking into this, and you >> can read the essay by going to this link on Google Drive: >> >> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxpSVO5IUz-EMGdwU1lD >> NjhSRFE?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> I would welcome comments from those interested in this subject, which >> would help us out here at Appalachian State in our discussions of this >> important subject. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Howie Neufeld >> >> -- >> Dr. Howard S. Neufeld, Professor >> Director, Southern Appalachian Environmental Research and Education Center >> (SAEREC) >> Chair, Appalachian Interdisciplinary Atmospheric Research Group (AppalAIR) >> >> Mailing Address: >> Department of Biology >> 572 Rivers St. >> Appalachian State University >> Boone, NC 28608 >> Tel: 828-262-2683; Fax 828-262-2127 >> >> Websites: >> Academic: http://biology.appstate.edu/faculty-staff/104 >> Personal: http://www.appstate.edu/~neufeldhs/index.html >> SAEREC: http://saerec.appstate.edu >> AppalAIR: http://appalair.appstate.edu >> Fall Colors: >> Academic: http://biology.appstate.edu/fall-colors >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FallColorGuy >> >> > -- Malcolm L. 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