Inovis new generation bizmanager solution offers as2 and more. Unfortunatelly 
due to the hastle of migrating from tlw and tle it may not be the best option 
for all inovis software users  Some simply run bizconnect part of bizmanager as 
a stand alone com package. 
Since it would be the same as running cleo, which many have run for years 
allready, implementing it (bizconnect) may be an overkill.

Cleo is very stable and advance comparing with other com packages I've seen.

Ilia
Khny


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To: Ilia Chlaifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Walmart - EDI

Now if Inovis could only Include AS2/AS3 in there traslator/comm software
that would prevent us from using a 3rd
party software such as Cleo.




                                                                                
                                                  
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I am surprised your cost was so high.

We've used Cleo lexicom as2 solution. Each as2 tp license was around $400
one time fee.
We do as2 with anyone who'd support it.

The cost savings are great comparing with standard van costs.

Vans meanwile understand they have a problem.  Inovis had offered us a 3
year contract we simply could not refuse.

With 3 as2 tps and van flat rate our edi communication costs went from 150
to 60k p/yr

Ilia
Khny

------Original Message------
From: Denise Tate
To: Earl Wertheimer
To: [email protected]
Sent: May 12, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Walmart - EDI

Earl,

We are a seasonal manufacturer and that plays into our situation when I
stated we couldn't jusfty  adding more partners to AS2.  The partners I
wanted to add had VAN costs of less than 5,000 a year. Our busy season is
July - December.  The cost to add 3 more partners to AS2 was about double
the VAN costs.  And since these other partners are not mandating a move to
AS2, it was a dead project money wise.  Hard to spend more to save less
than half.

I love spending money but I am not that good yet to get the money out of
the big boss's hands.

Denise

-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Wertheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Walmart - EDI


Denise

> If your going to look to do AS2, my suggestion would be to consider a
solution
> that doesn't cost alot to add more partners.  When we bought our AS2
solution
> (which works great)to accomodate Wal-Mart's AS2 directive, we got 3
licenses
> with it ... now I can't justify adding more partners because the cost of
adding
> more licenses is more than the VAN costs... so they stay with the VAN.

And that AS2 software was?

Adding new partners is usually just a matter of generating & exchanging new
Certs...  I would really like to know how much they are charging to do
that..

Earl Wertheimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.spe-edi.com



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