Mr. Frank asked for someone else to weigh in. I hope he's ready for what he's going to hear.
For my 2 cents worth, I think certification is not only unreasonable, it is absolutely ridiculous and borders on extortioner. No one "certifies" the software implementing the underlying protocols over which ASx runs (IP, TCP, HTTP, SMTP, FTP, X.509, 802.x, etc.) and anyone who suggested that they should be would probably be hooted out of the IETF, W3C, IEEE, and other relevant bodies, if not tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. If I remember correctly, the IETF requires a couple of reference implementations before promoting an RFC to a standard, but that is nothing compared to the manner and cost of the UCC and Drummond Group certification. What's good enough for the rest of the IT industry ought to be good enough for us. ASx certification may or may not be encouraging uniform implementations more than an uncertified approach might, but it is certainly impeding adoption. You have to wonder who is really benefiting. The only way to change this situation is for enough suppliers to lobby their hubs that demand certification, tell them it is unreasonable, and exercise whatever leverage they can without shooting themselves in the feet. I'm not holding my breath, but I hope that sooner or later someone at Sears, Penney's, or WalMart will come to the brilliant business insight that certification is costing them more money than it's worth because it buys them precious little benefit in implementation errors, and impedes their progress in converting trading partners. Mike At 08:18 PM 8/1/2005 +0000, airforce_veteran wrote: >BRAVO Art Douglas!! > >Few would have the guts to call a shot like that! Hopefully, there >will be many more such candid postings about the pros and cons of AS2 >certification and related EDI/XML operational topics. > >For example, who else will weigh in on the issue of whether AS2 >certification is necessary and/or desirable for AS2 implementations? >What are the technical issues and. business concerns? I am not an >expert (anymore) in the EDI arena, but Art's comments ring true to my >old ears. What are the facts? > >Robert Frank >(retired EDI consultant) > > --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting www.rawlinsecconsulting.com Using XML with Legacy Business Applications (Addison-Wesley, 2003) www.awprofessional.com/titles/0321154940 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hp3qgj2/M=362335.6886445.7839731.1510227/D=groups/S=1705005582:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1122951579/A=2894361/R=0/SIG=13jmebhbo/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/education/digitaldivide/?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=GRP&RTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/";>In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide!</a>.</font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
