Lol... government spin....... unemployed = only the people who still collect
benefits.. the ones not, or who do not look for jobs at the unemployment
office are not counted.  

 Karen Brasier
       Extension 8848

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:53 PM
To: Karen Brasier; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message -- off topic rant.

Like many, I am torn on this issue. Somehow we still manage to survive
considering the fact that that unemployment is reaching all time low levels
in years, while outsourcing is reaching all time high levels. How do you
explain that? 

  _____  

From: [email protected] on behalf of Karen Brasier
Sent: Wed 3/22/2006 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message -- off topic rant.



I humbly disagree with there being no sense in decrying this situation.  We 
can change what happens in the USA.   Realize this is a global list, but 
none of the other countries have 'open borders' policy as we 
do....Corporations love cheap labor at the expense of the American Workers. 
We can and will change this policy, making it less attractive to 'outsource'

for the corporations.    

 Karen Brasier 
       Extension 8848 
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:06 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message 

We must remember that this is a global list for a global community.  Many of

us have "lost" jobs to outsource services, some in other countries.  There 
is no more sense in decrying this situation than there was 100 years ago 
when blacksmiths began to be unemployable because of Henry Ford.  Smart 
blacksmiths went to work for Ford.  Smarter ones purchased stock. 

Progress happens. 

The book, "Who Moved My Cheese" was a best seller, partly because it is 
thin, but mostly because it addresses this very issue. 

It is time we, the IT community in the western world, start evaluating our 
futures.  Is the job you're doing the only thing you can do?  Better learn 
something new.  Are you counting on employment for 100% of your income, now 
and in the future?  What was that your grandmother said about eggs and 
baskets? 

After work, I teach people how to diversify their income sources.  If you 
want to know more, contact me via my business email: acd<at>ix.netcom.com.  

Art Douglas 



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From: JOHN KNIGHT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:53 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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No, the proper response for the off shore request is "What is the rate you 
are paying". 

For one who has been unemployed for the last 6 months now after 16 years in 
the EDI community I am tired of all of the support that we give to the 
request for information that is from the off-shore area. 

Sure, I might know the answer but why offer if for free when I am now done 
with my severance package, my unemployement and now am living on my savings.

My job was outsourced and the automotive sector for supply parts OEM is 
going to China.  Jobs are hard to come by and any help would be a plus.  So 
for me I say what is your rate and I can help you with your problem.  Better

start to see what is going around or you will be in the same boat as me 
without a job and the only prospect is to move from my family and friends. 
Off shore was great for my company but it sure was not great for me and my 
family. 

I can tell you that after doing automotive EDI for 16 years for the off 
shore companies they were not there to offer me a job when I needed it. 

Not really bitter but just trying to deal with reality and what I will be 
doing with the rest of my life since it has been six months with nothing. 

John 

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The tandard response to a equest like this: I uggest you ontact your lient's

trading artner and find out what hey are xpecting, or will be sending. 


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Sovik Nandi 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:59 AM 
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Subject: [EDI-L] <Tech> OSTRPT message 

Hello All, 
  Currently we are doing OSTRPT message mapping for our client. 
  This is the first time our lient is rying o send such a message. 
  They are using EDIFACT. 
  Can anyone help us with some old sample messages so that we can get an 
idea about the data that is to be sent. 
   
  Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated. 
   
  Sovik 
   
  Business Consultants Group, 
  Calcutta, 
  India 

            
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