Walter > 1 - If we start using ASN's, what are the "rules"? Meaning, would > there be any difference in verifying the delivered cases? There's > no real guarantee on case count so how would it be worked out if > there truly are mistakes on the amount of cases shipped if they > don't match the ASN - via normal customer service calls?
Remember that EDI is just the transport component of a change in B2B communications. Usually, there will be a related change in procedures to accommodate the new documents and shorter lead times, etc... How can you say there is 'no real guarantee on case count'? I only have a few grocery clients, and they don't require ASNs, yet... At some point, you have to KNOW what is being shipped. If every case will have a label before it's loaded into the truck, then you have to know how many cases are being shipped... With some TPs, deviations from the stated ASN quantities results in very expensive chargebacks - could be more than the value of the goods shipped ! The entire point of the ASN is to ensure that the electronic shipment matches the contents of the truck. > 2 - Does the shipper/trucker know that the receiver has gotten an > ASN and would they be instructed to then "drop-n-go" or would they > still need to go through whatever receiving dock mechanics that > normally transpire (hand in paper work, open the truck, etc.)? As I mentioned before. many of our clients do not load the truck (or let it leave) until they have received a positive 997 for their ASN. I don't know about the receiving side, but I'm sure much more is automated - Some TPs request Appointment times for delivery, with a specific Appointment number' which must be added to the ASN. > 3 - We use several EDI brokers for many smaller manufacturers and > one of our EDI brokers stated they don't get involved with ASN's - > which I find odd. Does this make sense? Yes. If they are too small to handle EDI, they may find themselves with fewer customers. I'm not sure about your relationship with the brokers, but it can certainly complicate things... What happens if you have to ship goods from different locations? How do you tell the broker what to ship? Who prints the labels and how do they get to the broker? etc, etc, etc... You may have to continue with the broker as is, and send the ASN on their behalf... There are additional documents (940/945?) that deal with warehouse releases for TPLs (Third Party Logistic providers)... > --- In [email protected], "Bob Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Walter, > > > > As a manufacturer doing ASN's, we find the delivery date is > mandated by > > our customers, and the ship date is based on that date and travel > time. > > We tell the carrier when it must arrive. > > > > You are correct as to when the ASN is generated. > > > > Good luck, > > > > Bob > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > > w_cohen99 > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:27 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [EDI-L] ASN > > > > Ok, we currently only do POs and invoices with our trading > partners. We > > are thinking about doing ASNs with our tp's to better manage our > > expected deliveries. > > > > I'm contacting various TPs for general information on these ASNs. > > From what I can tell, once the vendor ships materials from their > plant > > is when they generate an ASN. The carrier would then ultimately > dictate > > when the materials would arrive in the distribution center. > > Is the typical lead-time for an ASN usually at least a day in > advance or > > would it be based on where the vendor's plant is located to gauge > how > > much time it might take to be delivered? > > > > I think the more important piece of an ASN is not that it tells > you the > > shipment is coming, although that is important, but it details all > of > > the items being shipped by product id (UPC code) and their > corresponding > > carton and/or pallet. Aditionally, it would be able to tell us > what > > really is coming which might be different than what we think is > coming > > (shorts, etc.) > > > > Anyone care to add anything about ASN for me? > > > > Thank. > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -------------------- > ~--> > > Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/OIFolB/TM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -~-> > > > > ... > > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject > prefix: > > <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for > work: > > <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. > > Yahoo! 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