On this point I could not agree more. I own a small business and we do EDI outsourcing as well as some data center outsourcing for some of our clients. We keep hot backup copies of some clients iSeries boxes and for some we run their boxes. There are 10 iseries boxes in our DC, and we have no full time operations person. I go over and change the tapes out in the robotic drives once a week, but that is about it. They do just run, and run and run. cjg
Carl J. Galgano EDI Consulting Services, Inc. 770-422-2995 www.ediconsulting.com 600 Kennesaw Avenue Suite 400 Marietta, GA 30060 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve D. Becker Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software Plus, the AS/400 solution would actually work reliably. Upfront cost and lifecycle cost are very different beasties, and the latter are too often ignored in making decisions like this. In our shop, we have about 2.5 FTEs babysitting the Windows network, which provides the expected "personal-productivity tools", a term that is too often more ironic than accurate. Our core business applications run on the AS/400, and I think about it every now and then. Regards, Steve Becker Sports, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Carl Galgano Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:37 AM To: 'Earl Wertheimer'; 'Thompson, Glenn'; [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software Unitizing a different translator would involve redoing his interface and all his maps, partner relationships, communications etc. That can get quite a bit more expensive that just the communications cost between the PC and iSeries. Utilizing 2 iSeries boxes would almost certainly be less expensive. To deploy a decent Pc based translator, I would think at minimum you are looking at 4-6K in hardware and software, and then the implementation expense to redo all the maps, interface, etc. Deploying a second iSeries in the same tier can be done for about 6K, and utilizing Distributed Data Management (DDM) on the iSeries, the applications will never have any idea that the EDI translator is sitting on a different iSeries. Very minor tweaking would be required to make this totally seamless to his applications. cjg Carl J. Galgano EDI Consulting Services, Inc. 770-422-2995 www.ediconsulting.com 600 Kennesaw Avenue Suite 400 Marietta, GA 30060 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Earl Wertheimer Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:14 PM To: Thompson, Glenn; [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software Glenn Why not put the EDI stuff on a normal PC and save piles of money? The difference in licensing costs is probably more than setting up the communications between the PC and the AS/400. To: <[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > From: "Thompson, Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:gthompson%40blockcorp.com> <mailto:gthompson%40blockcorp.com> > Date sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:04:56 -0500 Subject: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software > I'm a little peeved at the moment. I shouldn't be, because I know how > the games works but it still hacks me off. > > > > We are running EDI on our System I (AS/400, Iseries, etc.). We are > upgrading our System I and the new box is in a higher "tier". Our EDI > translator provider wants us to pay them a "L A R G E" sum of money so > we can run the existing software on the upgraded box. > > > > No more functionality, no new features, no changes, just the same > version running on the new box. As I said I know how the game works > but I can't believe that companies are still doing this. But as long > as they can get away with it they will continue. > > > > I guess other than venting I'm wondering if other people have run into > this and if they able to "negotiate". > > > > Glenn Thompson > > Senior Analyst > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ... > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: > <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. > Yahoo! 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