Craig,

We are the receiver of the ASN.
As mentioned, we need not only the item's UPC and quantity but also 
how it is packed (for those items that we could sell individually or 
are high priced such as camera film, batteries, shampoo, etc)
We do not need UCC128 case labels nor do we need pallet labels.
I was just surprised that a "major" vendor of ours stated "Our ASN 
maps that don't include UCC128 label information have either the 
Pack or Item level but not both".

Actually receiving UCC128 label information is not the issue - we 
could just ignore it.

I agree that as the customer we dictate what the vendor must send us.

Walter
--- In [email protected], "Craig Dunham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Earl (et al)....
> 
> I've seen SOP - but purely because My TP is not following our ASN 
> spec...  They're sending us the pack with the UCC128 number but 
then 
> neglecting (or just ignoring) the Item level of the ASN....
> 
> As for Michael's post about "Although personally I would never 
use "O" 
> level above either P or I, I'd use a PRF segment at the Item level 
> whereever that ends up." - there's a problem with this....
> 
> Some TPs want the typical SOPI structure - but even using that 
SOPI 
> structure, you can list (as long as the TP allows it) multiple "O" 
> level segments above the P and/or the I segment.
> 
> For example, we do not require a single shipment for a single ASN 
for 
> a single PO.... with the globalization of the manufacturing side 
of 
> things, we may get a shipment that contains items from multiple 
POs.  
> So we'll have an ASN that is SOPIOPIOPIOPI etc....  The TP 
includes 
> the original PO number in the PRF segment in the Order HL.  This 
> allows for multiple header records (as needed) with the 
appropriate 
> detail records for the Pack and Item levels....  This allows (in 
our 
> case) a simpler movement of the data into our WM system.
> 
> Truth is, each case and situation will be a little different....
> 
> To Walter's ORIGINAL question - the answer has been given multiple 
> times - the Pack level is for the carton identification - even if 
it's 
> as simple as "1 of 5" or the normal UCC128 carton label number.  
The 
> Item level is to reference what is contained within that carton 
> referenced in the Pack level.
> 
> But something else comes to mind, Walter - are you the sender or 
the 
> receiver of the ASN...?  If you're the sender, you need to send 
the TP 
> what it is they want.  If they don't want the pack level 
information 
> and your translation can handle not including it, then don't send 
> it....  Or, just still send it along as "extra data" and the TP 
can 
> either translate and move the data or not - their choice.
> 
> However, if you are the RECEIVER of the ASN, you're in the 
driver's 
> seat for this....  If you require the UCC128 lable at the pack 
level, 
> then the TP needs to toe the line and meet YOUR specification.  It 
is 
> their problem and issue to comply with YOUR spec.  You should not 
have 
> to change YOUR spec for a single TP.  What's the old adage - "the 
> customer is always right"....?  Well, you ARE that customer and 
YOUR 
> spec is what is right and needs to be complied with.
> 
> My 2 bits on this....
> 
> Craig Dunham
> EDI Coordinator
> Big 5 Sporting Goods.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Earl Wertheimer" <earlw@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I've _never_ seen SOP yet...
> > 
> > 
> >
>




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